T207 Red Cross (this is a must see for everyone)
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Re: T207 Red Cross (this is a must see for everyone)
Congrats to GeorgeD on an amazing find and to the Full Count Forum.
Sabrjay, keep the scans coming!!
Sabrjay, keep the scans coming!!
BryanKrause- Minor Leaguer
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You need to let these out every few years like a reserve wine cellar.
This NY Giants lineup is starting to make me drool. There's another McGraw, a Larry Doyle, a Mike Donlin.
If a Mathewson drops in the next batch I'm going to end up like Jay.
This NY Giants lineup is starting to make me drool. There's another McGraw, a Larry Doyle, a Mike Donlin.
If a Mathewson drops in the next batch I'm going to end up like Jay.
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What do we have about 50 more cards to come, this is one fine collection. Is there a possiblity that there will be new T207 discoveries other than the Red Crosses or Red Cross T215s?
Lee
Lee
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I'm in complete awe. This is amazing! Can't wait to see what's next! I'll be tuning in frequently to check out this thread.
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Wonder how many collectors aren't still aware of this amazing and historical hobby find thanks to the idiocy and cretinism of a certain message board "owner".
Keep the scans coming!
Keep the scans coming!
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yes...truly awesome...Lee...are there t215s previously uncataloqued? They all appear to be type I's...and all of the coupons so far are type II. Is it safe to presume this collection was accumulated from 1912-1914/15 or so?
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Here are the fronts to the scan 3 backs
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ullmandds wrote:yes...truly awesome...Lee...are there t215s previously uncataloqued? They all appear to be type I's...and all of the coupons so far are type II. Is it safe to presume this collection was accumulated from 1912-1914/15 or so?
Looks like there are a few type 2 T215's in the bunch. Jennings and Willetts in the scan just posted.
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LOOKS LIKE U ARE CORRECT, ERIC...GOOD EYE!
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ullmandds wrote:LOOKS LIKE U ARE CORRECT, ERIC...GOOD EYE!
I'm sorry Pete....please stop yelling at me!
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Here's an email I got from George:
My grandparents and their children lived in a small town north of Baton Rouge until about 1910 moving then to BR. My uncle was born about 1903, and I assume he collected these 1911 +. It is possible my grandpa did the collecting. However, my uncle was into sports
all his life, graduated from LSU in PE, was head coach at Livingston LA at the time of his death in the mid 30's. All the family lived all their lives in BR except my mother who lived in Port Arthur TX from marriage until her death.
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If you guys have any other questions, post them here I'll be happy to pass them along.
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I'm interested in hearing about how they were stored. In an album? Cigar box? Or just loose? Were they organized by the backs, or just randomly dispersed?
What a phenomenal collection. This is what the hobby is all about. Thank you George for sharing it with us.
What a phenomenal collection. This is what the hobby is all about. Thank you George for sharing it with us.
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Some more surprises from this amazing collection. A t207 Buck Weaver and some Mello-Mints. Imagine they craziness if Weaver had a Red Cross back
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Again congrats to George and the Full Count Forum family for sharing this important find with the hobby.
Would like to know if GeorgeD is planning to consign the cards to an auction house in the short term and the grading company of choice.
And more scans please... but this time make sure to put a huge GeorgeD/Full Count Forum watermark so they don't end up becoming the 2010 whiteout versions of the Billy Ripken f*ck face fleer card.
To those posting about the find on other forums, please copy and paste the following link because others have the right to know the real source of the news.
https://vbbc.forumotion.com/pre-ww2-cards-f1/t207-red-cross-this-is-a-must-see-for-everyone-t3312.htm
Would like to know if GeorgeD is planning to consign the cards to an auction house in the short term and the grading company of choice.
And more scans please... but this time make sure to put a huge GeorgeD/Full Count Forum watermark so they don't end up becoming the 2010 whiteout versions of the Billy Ripken f*ck face fleer card.
To those posting about the find on other forums, please copy and paste the following link because others have the right to know the real source of the news.
https://vbbc.forumotion.com/pre-ww2-cards-f1/t207-red-cross-this-is-a-must-see-for-everyone-t3312.htm
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Great collection George!
Thank you for bringing them to our attention.
Steve
Thank you for bringing them to our attention.
Steve
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Here is the latest email from George. I asked him about how the cards were store and few other things.
The cards were loose in a Whitman's candy box. In the attic at my mother's. When in Baton Rouge they were in a house with no basement so either attic or closet. By the way, in the mid 90's the Museum of the Gulf Coast in Port Arthur had a seasonal exhibit on baseball and asked area residents to loan collectibles. I loaned the collection and they were displayed in a case - I got no calls or comments so I guess no one was aware of the significance. Most of the exhibit was centered around the Port Arthur Seahawks, an Evangeline League team from the 50's. Several on the team settled in the area. The museum's main attraction to tourists is the Janis Joplin items - she was a native of PA and went through high school here.
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Here's the cards that George thought we wouldn't be interested in seeing. Oh my, another t207 Red Cross. This time, it's one that is already known to exist. There is also a t213 type 2 Walter Johnson
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Does the Janis Joplin card have a Red cross back as well?
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This should be all the cards that George has scanned for me. The last one is a repost of scan 3. Seems the link went bad.
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Awesome find ! Congrats.
Being a deeply involved ? collector of the 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken card, I know the feeling to make a new discovery.
New here, but vintage is not my niche. The "Bill Ripken Whiteout" mention a few posts above caught me eye.
Happy Hunting, Donovan
Being a deeply involved ? collector of the 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken card, I know the feeling to make a new discovery.
New here, but vintage is not my niche. The "Bill Ripken Whiteout" mention a few posts above caught me eye.
Happy Hunting, Donovan
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Will be interesting to see where this great collection ends up and how the T207 Red Crosses perform. Surely GeorgeD has been contacted by a bunch of auction houses by now. The buzz surrounding this post here has been significant...and when the cards hit the open market, I think it will have even more of an effect on the T207 set, both in terms of prices and popularity. It seems like T207 was on the uptick already anyway, even before the "find".
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It's been fun exchanging emails and phone calls with George. He and his wife are very nice. When we were talking about various auction houses his wife asked about "whales". I didn't understand her at first because I wasn't expecting them to be using a term a like that. They have definitely been doing their homework.
Another interesting tidbit they passed on was they had taken the Lowdermilk and few other cards with to the Antiques Roadshow. The appraiser there gave them a value on the Lowdermilk for what a normal one would go for.
It really is amazing that these cards have been seen in public twice, once by a supposed expert and no one had a clue as to the real significance of this collection.
Another interesting tidbit they passed on was they had taken the Lowdermilk and few other cards with to the Antiques Roadshow. The appraiser there gave them a value on the Lowdermilk for what a normal one would go for.
It really is amazing that these cards have been seen in public twice, once by a supposed expert and no one had a clue as to the real significance of this collection.
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this find should be right up a hobby publication like Old Cardboard or the SGC Publication if the cards are graded there. Would get even more people chomping at the bit.
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There will be a write up in an upcoming Old Cardboard newsletter but there probably isn't going to be an article in the magazine. My guess is that SGC will be the ones to grade these cards and I am sure that they will be doing a story on them. It's a no-brainer with a group of cards like this.
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