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Post by ItsOnlyGil Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:53 pm

Well Glen's brown Ott proves that players come in multiple colors because the following grouping includes a red Ott (with full borders).

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Post by nolemmings Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:06 am

Boy, the pictures in those cards vary in size, a trait I'm not used to seeing. I'm not talking about the sides, but if you look at the photos themselves, that Red Ott is "taller" than the Brooklyn pitcher (Vance?) next to it, and the O'Doul is bigger than the Wilson in one of the earlier posts, again, not counting the cut. (I assume these are not cut and pasted scans of different size, but one scan of multiple cards side by side) If they were laid out as appears in the Joe Judge miscut card, you wonder how they would/could be different sizes top to bottom.
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Post by ItsOnlyGil Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:16 am

The lower right hand corner of this Foxx appears to show the border of the adjacent card, but this is not very clear.

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Post by r337man Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:20 am

Great info! Thanks for all of your thoughts and prayers, they are greatly appreciated!


Here are my only ones, you guys got me way beat with this issue:

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Post by fisherboy7 Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:30 am

Well, that graded Traynor certainly has nice full side borders, as do both of Dan's red tints. So there goes my theory. Still gotta wonder why such a large % lack the side borders though. There must be a good reason for it. scratch
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Post by ItsOnlyGil Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:40 am

Plenty of browns and reds.
Far less greens and purples.
If you see a blue, buy it.
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Post by ItsOnlyGil Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:16 pm

Glen & Dan,

On your Leader Noveltys which contain side borders:
are the images narrower than those which have no side borders?
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Post by rhettyeakley Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:16 am

The Leader Novelty cards are truly enigmatic. Sizes are all over the map and I enjoy the colors. I had several at one point and sold them too cheap. However, I gotta admit I enjoy the W553 set. I like the different color stock used...
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Post by scott elkins Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:04 pm

Dan, I am only now reading this thread (at least the parts I have not read in a few days). I would like to wish your mother and family all the best and hope she recovers fine very quickly.

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Post by sabrjay Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:26 pm

Rhett, is that a w553? If so, I owned 5 uncut strips of those cards back around 1987. No one had a clue what they were.

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Post by ItsOnlyGil Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:05 pm

Leader Novelty, w553, Uncle Jacks and w517 minis are all small duotone cards of about the same size and date of issuance.
At about 1.75x2.75" the attractiveness of each set is more easily defined by personal preference than by measurable design differences.
All cards from these sets are uncommon, some much moreso than others.
Yet Uncle Jacks cards yield a premium price typically multiples of the other sets.
Why is the demand for these cards uniquely strong enough to support this elevated price?
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Post by TheRiddler Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:13 am

Well Gil, that may be because Uncle Jacks are the only set in that field which is not a strip card, or other cut out. But the identified field does not include a twelve card set entitled E222 A. W. H. Caramels Va. League
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Post by TheRiddler Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:05 pm

Shown approximately actual size:


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It is unknown to me which colors are least frequently encountered. However, the cards are all scarce.
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Post by dstudeba Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:49 pm

I did have an O'Doul that was red and had both side borders. I will post a scan if I can find it.

Riddler - are those just scans or do you own some of those e222s?

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Post by TheRiddler Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:32 pm

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Post by dstudeba Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:48 pm

That is too bad as I was looking for some of those e222s and was hoping I had found a new source for them.

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Post by ItsOnlyGil Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:35 am

TheRiddler wrote:Well Gil, that may be because Uncle Jacks are the only set in that field which is not a strip card, or other cut out. But the identified field does not include a twelve card set entitled E222 A. W. H. Caramels Va. League

I do not believe that there is any indication that Leader Novelty cards are a strip card issue.
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Post by ItsOnlyGil Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:48 pm

However, I do have a curiososoty regarding their manufacture. Specifically, most of these cards appear to be machine cut to close side tolerances, however, others appear to exhibit comparatively wide side borders

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Post by TheRiddler Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:36 pm

Yes, but are wide border Leader Novelty cards really worth 2.5x narrow border examples?
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