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Post by fisherboy7 Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:46 am

Could someone provide a ranking of the different Obak back slogans in order of difficulty? With so many different ones (35 in total), I've often wondered which slogans are the toughest to find. Your observations/experiences with the various slogans would also be appreciated incase a comprehensive ranking is too much to ask.

Here are just a few scans from Old Cardboard.


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Post by TheRiddler Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:57 pm

You do not hear about people collecting these Obak variations as much as those of t206 or e121 (comprising I guess W501, two types of W575, Witmor Candy, Lou Gertenrich, three varieties of Amer. Caramel, Henry A. Johnson, and others).

I wonder how these Obaks rank in the overall back variations popularity chart.
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Post by sabrjay Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:40 pm

I used to have this info, but sadly got tossed with everything else when I got out in 1992. I'd love to have all my old reference material back.

Maybe Mark Macrae will chime in. I have no doubt he knows, but it maybe like rare zeenuts and OJs, no one is giving out that info very easily.

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Post by Jim Rivera cfc1909 Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:16 pm

I don't collect these but I have a few examples-2 or 3. I remember Brockelman selling a complete run on 54 some time ago. As for the toughest, Just Right comes to mind but I am really not sure.
David Bryan had some on ebay not long ago and I think it was the Just Right he had labeled as tough.
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Post by TheRiddler Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:09 pm

Came across this list (not in ordfer of difficulty)


Key Slogans Total Subjects Known in 150 Series Total Subjects Known in 175 Series
A Always a Pleasure 4 15 new 2/24
B Always with Mouthpieces 4 23 new 2/24
C A New Standard 7 new 2/24 9
D Cigarettes of Quality 3 6
E Clean - Pure 5 12
F Clean - Wholesome 3 8 new 2/24
G Convenient Sensible 5 new 2/24 60 new 2/24
H Delicate Aroma 4 5
I Distinctive 3 11
J Everyone Satisfies 5 new 2/24 12 new 2/24
K For Exacting Smokers 4 8
L High Quality 4 13 new 2/24
M Immensely Popular 3 4
N Instantly Popular 5 3 new 2/24
O Just Right 2 2
P Mais Paper Wrapper 6 new 2/24 4
Q Manufactured to Excel 4 10 new 2/24
R Marvelous Blend 4 new 2/24 7
S Mild and Pure 5 new 2/24 11 new 2/24
T No Paste Used 4 12
U None Better 5 14 new 2/24
V Nothing Like Them 4 10
W Paper Crimped 3 new 2/24 7
X Perfect Aroma 5 12
Y Perfect Flavor 5 12 new 2/24
Z Scientifically Blended 4 9 new 2/24
a Smoke Obak 3 new 2/24 9
b Speak for Themselves 6 new 2/24 12
c Stand the Test 3 11
d Surpass Imagination 4 new 2/24 7
e The Story in the Smoking 4 4
f They Please 3 14 new 2/24
g They Excel 3 11
h Unusual 4 10
j Wonderfully Good 5 new 2/24 19 new 2/24


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Post by glenv Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:28 pm

A list was published in Issue #22 of VCBC in Feb, 2000 (which came from The World Index volumes 4 & 5 - Cartophilic Society of Great Britain). It was updated in Issue #24, Jan. 2001. The updated list had the original data plus a column of new reported cards. Think the posted list above is from that issue, but some of the numbers weren't added correctly. Regardless, it's pretty close, but very out of date. The updates were from VCBC readers. There must be more cards out there (or are there less that got reported twice???) Anyway, here's the list from VCBC with original number and additional reported cards (I won't try the math).

Key Slogans Total Subjects Known in 150 Series Total Subjects Known in 175 Series
A Always a Pleasure 4, 13+1
B Always with Mouthpieces 4+1, 19+4
C A New Standard 6+1, 9+1
D Cigarettes of Quality 3+1, 6
E Clean - Pure 5+2, 12
F Clean - Wholesome 3, 7+2
G Convenient Sensible 4+1, 59+6
H Delicate Aroma 4+2, 5+1
I Distinctive 3+1, 11
J Everyone Satisfies 4+1, 10+2
K For Exacting Smokers 4+1, 8+1
L High Quality 4+2, 12+2
M Immensely Popular 3, 4+3
N Instantly Popular 5+1, 2
O Just Right 2, 2
P Mais Paper Wrapper 5+1, 4+2
Q Manufactured to Excel 4, 9+1
R Marvelous Blend 3+2, 7+2
S Mild and Pure 4+1, 9+3
T No Paste Used 4+1, 12
U None Better 5+1, 13+1
V Nothing Like Them 4, 10+1
W Paper Crimped 2, 7+2
X Perfect Aroma 5, 12+1
Y Perfect Flavor 5, 11+1
Z Scientifically Blended 4, 8+3
a Smoke Obak 2+1, 9
b Speak for Themselves 5+2, 12+2
c Stand the Test 3+2, 11+2
d Surpass Imagination 4 new 3, 7+2
e The Story in the Smoking 4, 4
f They Please 3+1, 12+3
g They Excel 3, 11
h Unusual 4, 10
j Wonderfully Good 4+1, 16+3

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