Opinions on this E98 Bender, stamp back....

I just received this E98 Bender...it has an unusual stamp on back. "PAID"

As i looked at it with my eye loop i can see how the ink is still present even after some paper loss but no ink from the players.

Can it be possible that the stamp was put on before printing. I know Scott E. has a card with a cigar stamp that Kevin has checked out.


Mark

Ah, the "underprint" question. To me, it would make sense that the ink used to stamp "Paid" was either a larger quantity or different type of ink or had some other reason that caused it to permeate deeper into the card than the adjacent player names. With the light paper loss, the names and most of the paid stamp were lost, but some remnants of the paid stamp remain. I do not hold myself out to be an expert on such matters, but it would seem to me that is more likely than the alternative.

Guess would be that ink just bleed thru deeper into the paper. The lithographic process doesn't lend itself to inking that seeps deep into the paper.

I still don't buy the underprint theory on anything unless the card looked like it was true printers scrap.

Jay

As to the checklist looking like it is on top of the PAID stamp, that can be attributed to the checklist ink be glossy. The ink for the PAID stamp is most likely is a water base. It would run off the glossier ink of the checklist giving the appearance of the checklist being on top.

Jay

that makes sense....thanks Jay.


You learn something new everyday.


Mark

I still don't buy the underprint theory on anything unless the card looked like it was true printers scrap.

I agree. Unfortunately, the one that I was able in inspect and examine in-depth this year belonged to a person who many dislike (that may be an understatement) and I was caught in a terrible heard mentality.

A "highly respected" person in the hobby and I both agree it is very real. Had it belonged to anyone else, it would been taunted as a new discovery and over glorified. Even if had been someone who I disliked, I would have come to the same conclusion.

That was not of the best times of the year and caused me to back off from posting on most boards. I'm now trying to ease myself back into posting. Fortunately this is a great place to start.

Sorry for venting.

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Mark, if you want to send the card over, I will be more than happy to inspect it and give an objective opinion. The price is right....free.


Kevin

That is very nice of you to offer that...i do believe you and others when they say my "PAID" stamp is after-the-fact. It just looks weird when you see the "PAID" going thru a few layers and the players names looking like they are on top.


I am sending it to SGC for grading and may sell it down the road or just keep it.


Thanks
Mark