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Post by fisherboy7 Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:53 pm

Happy Holidays to all! I was searching ebay completed items and saw a nice 1915 Zeenut Harry Heilmann - don't think I've seen that card for sale before. Seller wanted 10k!! I assume Heilmann is one of the tougher HOFers, ditto for Crawford. Anyone want to try a ranking of the toughest Zeenut HOFers?
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Post by seablaster Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:50 pm

Merry Christmas gentlemen. rendeer

I hope someone with more collecting experience comments, but I'll offer what little I do know through anecdotal evidence. I think it would be difficult to assemble a rank order list of difficulty, but I would place them in tiers. I think they are interchangeable within tiers.

Tier 1:
Heilmann, Covaleski, Southworth, Crawford

Tier 2:
Vance, Bancroft

Tier 3:
Chance, Lazzeri, Hooper, Cochrane

Tier 4:
P. Waner, L. Waner, Gomez, Averill, Lombardi

Tier 5:
DiMaggio

Obviously, the confounding variable is the extreme difficulty of some years over others which are more readily available.
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Post by Z-NUT Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:07 am

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Post by Z-NUT Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:17 am

Some years back I owned a couple hundred Zeenuts from various years and tried to follow every auction/sale I could. I saw every one of the key Zeenuts from the different series including the 1916 Claxton, 1911 Bohne, 1919 Arbuckle, etc., but never the 1920 Sam Crawford. I think one came up for sale in the last couple of years, but I could be mistaken about that.

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Post by pariah1107 Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:07 pm

Met Patricia Maguinez yesterday (daughter-in-law of Jimmy Claxton). IT WAS MY FAVORITE GIFT THIS YEAR! We had spoken on the phone many times before but finally met for the first time. Her husband, catcher Bob Maguinez, was known as "Mr. Amateur Baseball" in Tacoma, and later was a scout for the Minnesota Twins.

As for the Zeenuts, I would really like to hear Macrae's theories on them.

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Post by fisherboy7 Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:45 pm

Thanks for the responses so far guys.

Crawford is in the tough 1918 zeenut red border set right? I'd imagine that's one of the toughest zeenut hofers out there. Especially with the coupon intact - oh boy, what a monster that card would be!
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Post by Z-NUT Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:58 am

Crawford is indeed in the 1918 set. Never seen one with the coupon attached.

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Post by Z-NUT Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:00 am

The only one I've seen was an old photocopy and that was sans coupon.

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Post by sabrjay Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:23 am

There was a Crawford a few years back in a auction that featured a lot of rare Zeenuts like Thorpe, Bohn, Claxton, Arbuckle, etc
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Post by Z-NUT Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:05 am

2011 REA auction:

Lot # 536 1920 Zeenuts Sam Crawford SGC 40 - Sold for $4,944

Lot # 530 1918 Zeenuts partial set (60/104) inlcuding poor condition Crawford - Sold for $12,925


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Post by fisherboy7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:21 am

They weren't kidding when they called that 1918 Crawford "poor"....

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Post by sabrjay Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:57 pm

You can barely tell there is a red border
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