1925 Holland Creamery Ernest Shirley
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1925 Holland Creamery Ernest Shirley
Does anyone know how much this card is worth and where I could find one?
devildog2110- Minor Leaguer
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Re: 1925 Holland Creamery Ernest Shirley
Finding a specific Holland Creameries card is no easy task - they are very scarce. If you do manage to find one, expect to pay several hundred dollars for a lower grade example. Out of curiosity, what draws you to this particular card? Is Shirley a relative of yours?
Here's the set profile from Old Cardboard: http://www.oldcardboard.com/foreign/canada/holland/holland.asp?cardsetID=1134
Here's the set profile from Old Cardboard: http://www.oldcardboard.com/foreign/canada/holland/holland.asp?cardsetID=1134
Re: 1925 Holland Creamery Ernest Shirley
Yes thats my grandpas older brother. He wasn't a great player but he was good enough to play in the majors and its just cool to have a relative that actually won the World Series. I'd be willing to pay a few hundred for it. Thanks for the reply.
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devildog2110 wrote:Yes thats my grandpas older brother. He wasn't a great player but he was good enough to play in the majors and its just cool to have a relative that actually won the World Series. I'd be willing to pay a few hundred for it. Thanks for the reply.
That's cool that your relative won the World Series. Welcome to the board! Hope you find his card.
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I found somebody that had one but he wasn't willing to sell and I fully respect that. Maybe I'll run across one some day. I've collected since I was a teenager and have about 30,000 cards. I have a few good one but mostly common players. Collection is from early 80's to the late 90's. I never even knew about my grandpas brother until about four years ago. my Grandpa died about two years ago. He played minor league ball.
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Re: 1925 Holland Creamery Ernest Shirley
Ernest "Mule" Shirley played on both the 1924 and 1924 Senators teams (his only time in the majors). He only appeared in the 1924 W.S., going 1 for 2 with one RBI. I collect cards of the 1924 Senators players, and to the best of my knowledge, Jay is correct in that Shirley's only card is the Holland Creameries card. I have one of Shirley's cards, along with all the other cards in this set except the impossible Peckinpaugh card (my biggest card-collecting regret is not buying the only known example when I had the opportunity to several years ago!). If I come across another Shirley card, I'll let you know.
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That would be great Val, I'd be in debt to you for life bro. I do have a card of the Mule from the 1975 TMC set. Its just not the same as a card from 1924 or 1925. I was on Ebay and found a few original photos of him taken by some news photographers. I won one and lost the other. I'm not really sure why someone would have wanted a picture of him,maybe they were also related.....Who knows? Where do you live Val? Thanks again Val
devildog2110- Minor Leaguer
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SGC has two of the Creameries graded, a 10 and 40, and from Vintage Card Prices it's his only card available.
Re: 1925 Holland Creamery Ernest Shirley
People chase 'common' players for various reason. It could be like you where it is a relative. Others chase them because they are team collectors or just want players from a specific year. Commons can go for very uncommon prices at times.
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devildog2110 wrote:That would be great Val, I'd be in debt to you for life bro. I do have a card of the Mule from the 1975 TMC set. Its just not the same as a card from 1924 or 1925. I was on Ebay and found a few original photos of him taken by some news photographers. I won one and lost the other. I'm not really sure why someone would have wanted a picture of him,maybe they were also related.....Who knows? Where do you live Val? Thanks again Val
Hi devildog - I live in Centreville, VA, a No. Va. suburb of Washington, DC. I did pick up a some of my HC cards at shows in my area 10 -20 years ago, when shows happened every weekend. I know a couple of long-time Senators collectors in my area, so I'll check with them in hopes of finding a Shirley card. Here's a pic of my Shirley card:
As it so happens, my Shirley card is the best condition of all my HC cards. My other HCs look much like the other 3 cards in this pic. So, if you happen to be able to acquire a rough condition Shirley card that resembles my my other HC cards, I'll be glad to work out some sort of a trade with you so that you can have a better condition card.
You also asked why someone would want pictures of Shirley. Here are 2 examples: (1) I don't believe there are any bb cards of Tommy Taylor, who played for the 1924 Senators; so, I am hoping to find an old photo of him as a substitute for a bb card. (2) Until recently, I knew of only one bb card of "Oyster" Joe Martina, a pitcher for the 1924 Senators; this card is the 1924 Diaz Cigarettes card, a very scarce Cuban card; so I bought an old photo of Martina off of eBay; then, I very recently learned that Martina is also in the T210-1 Old Mill set, and I was able to acquire one of his cards in an auction!
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Val
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Yea Val, your Shirley card is in really nice condition for being almost 90 years old. How much was the card when you purchased it? Maybe I should go to a card show when I get a chance. I'll continue to look online and see if I can find one. Thanks for all the info Val.......Semper Fi
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Sorry, but I can't remember when or where I purchased my Shirley card many years ago or what I paid for it. I started keeping records of what I paid for cards only about 7 years ago. Patience is a virtue - you'll get one eventually! Good luck in your search.
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Thanks Val.....I'll keep searching.
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