lost all respect for SGC!!!
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lost all respect for SGC!!!
Last edited by t206head on Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:54 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: lost all respect for SGC!!!
Possible tiny pinhole? It looks like a crease/paper wrinkle on the left side of card across from the bat knob with a minor amount of paper loss on back where the wrinkle lines up.
Sure looks alot better than 30, at worse a 50.
This T202 I have has one that it took me along time before I found it. SGC 40
That card is a prime example why it would be nice if they added a description as to why the card was graded as such.
Sure looks alot better than 30, at worse a 50.
This T202 I have has one that it took me along time before I found it. SGC 40
That card is a prime example why it would be nice if they added a description as to why the card was graded as such.
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We are talking about PSA who is best known for the Cheeto eating chimps they use for graders. I wouldn't get upset over one bad grade. If you are near a show where they set up to grade, bring them the card and ask why it got the grade it has. They are more than willing to look over the card and tell you why it's graded the way it is. As Lee mentioned, it does appear to have a wrinkle or two.
Jay
Jay
Re: lost all respect for SGC!!!
Regardless of the # that's printed on the flip, the card is gorgeous. Own & enjoy the card not the slip of paper inside.
I've collected by this rule of thumb for some time now. Just my two cents.
I've collected by this rule of thumb for some time now. Just my two cents.
Re: lost all respect for SGC!!!
I would be more than happy to give it unbiased thorough inspection...free of course. I do it all the time for collectors and have worked with a grader or two as well. Just let me know if I can help!
You may need a better loupe!
Kevin Saucier
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You may need a better loupe!
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Last edited by onlychild on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:47 pm; edited 1 time in total
Re: lost all respect for SGC!!!
Just from the look of the Murphy, I would say it is not trimmed. I would need to hold it to be sure and still somrtimes it is very hard to tell.
I have several cards from SGC that I feel are undergraded. Usually when I have inquired about a card there was something I missed that caused the grade. They are very friendly and easy to deal with. You should call them and ask questions.
I have several cards from SGC that I feel are undergraded. Usually when I have inquired about a card there was something I missed that caused the grade. They are very friendly and easy to deal with. You should call them and ask questions.
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Maybe they were generously grading his hitting skills:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rockeik01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rockeik01.shtml
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PSA labels way too many cards trimmed or N08 miscut, its common knowledge on the CU boards where most just resend them in and most get graded. I sub to both PSA and SGC and I have had packs I open that I purchased when they came out and PSA still labeled some of the cards as trimmed, lol no chance.
Your card looks awesome enjoy it for what it is.
Your card looks awesome enjoy it for what it is.
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It is very true that PSA rejects far too many cards as trimmed that have not been trimmed. They seem to freely hand out that rejection and I am not sure why they are so liberal with it. Think it reflects their lack of experience in the grading room coupled with the fact that they know the card will be submitted again and again until it does grade.
In regards to SGC, if I need an SGC card in a PSA holder I almost always send it in for cross over consideration first but have had such a miserable success rate and normally end up having to break the cards out and send them in raw. Unfortunately in many cases the cards are not regrading--not even by SGC upon resubmission. Live by the sword die by the sword.
Greg
In regards to SGC, if I need an SGC card in a PSA holder I almost always send it in for cross over consideration first but have had such a miserable success rate and normally end up having to break the cards out and send them in raw. Unfortunately in many cases the cards are not regrading--not even by SGC upon resubmission. Live by the sword die by the sword.
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