Is this card trimmed?

I was considering bidding on this, but the bottom border on this card looks obviously trimmed to me...what say you?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1915-E106-American-Caramel-TRIS-SPEAKER-PSA-4-VG-EX_W0QQitemZ130273850685QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sports_Cards?hash=item130273850685&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Cheers,
Blair

I was looking at that card too. I have to agree that the bottom border looks trimmed. Especially where it slants downward at the right corner. I'd certainly think twice about dropping significant cabbage on this card. Yes I know, the mountains and clouds are pretty, you'll find another one.

fisherboy7 wrote:I was looking at that card too. I have to agree that the bottom border looks trimmed. Especially where it slants downward at the right corner. I'd certainly think twice about dropping significant cabbage on this card. Yes I know, the mountains and clouds are pretty, you'll find another one.

Hi Ben,

Thanks for your reply - I'm glad to see that another serious collector concurs with my concern about this one. I'll steer clear...but those mountains and clouds... .

Cheers,
Blair

we had a discussion about these e106s earlier (the seller's current wagner being sold) and zach hypothesized that all e106s are hand cut. i find that theory interesting since on some of these the bottom borders look really bad.

Interesting card. The auction has plenty of bids. The seller has more E-106 cards. It looks like a spot of paper loss on the front. SGC would probably downgrade it to a 20 or 30 as they are HARSH when it comes to paper loss. Anyway, I have this card in an SGC 30 and the cut looks normal compared to the bottom of this card. I had not heard the theory that E-106's were handcut. I heard the thoery that most have a vertical crease down the middle because of something that happened at the production plant.

here's the original thread talking about the e106 wagner

https://vbbc.forumotion.com/pre-ww2-cards-f1/trizzimed-or-no-t1053.htm

Yes trimmed across the bottom in my opinion.

I was looking at this card last night and had the same thought. Heavy tag for a trimmed card. I did bid on the SGC Bender and lost by 10 bucks. I have the strip cap and still need the white cap. Also the PSA 4 Bender( same bottom as Speaker) went for 100 more than the SGC 4.

The bottom edge certainly looks trimmed. Even if not trimmed, that looks like a very strong price for a E106 Speaker. Speaker is not a scarcer card in this set, like it is in the E90-1 set, is it?

Well I guess this was a bit of a moot point on my end because even if that card was not trimmed, there is no way I would have been paying $1800 for it.

Between the wonky bottom edge and the spot of what looks like paper loss, there is no chance I'd be paying a premium VG-EX price for that card.

Cheers,
Blair