Sets turning 100

Happy birthday to the sets turing 100 this year. They have reached triple digits. If you know of a set made in 1908, please post it. They deserve a day deticated to them. I will partying all day!!!



-Randy

E91-A

My only example and I know I just posted it on another thread, but I haven't won anything new in so #$!!&*($@ long that I'm forced to recycle scans of past glory days.

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Jay

H.M. Taylor PC's. Even Postmarked 1908

I have always had a hard time calling a postcard a baseball card. Yes, it's collectible and pictures baseball players, but it was intended to be neither, unlike cards inserted in packages or sold alone meant to be collected.

Jay

Jay-
I have had this discussion many times, so I won't go into great detail, but of course postcards are baseball cards. There is no difference. The only difference, if there is one, is that they were meant to be sent in the mail. They were baseball players, printed on cardboard, used for advertising, and obviously collected. I could go on and on, but please don't exclude a baseball postcard from a baseball card. Just consider it a baseball card that was sent through the mail.

Everyone has their own definition of what a baseball card is. Mine does not include postcards, CdVs, Cabinets, felts, pins and many other things that do not fit my definition of a card. Are they baseball collectibles? Of course, but they are not cards by my definition.

Jay

It's all Cardboard, It ain't Rocket Science

A post card isn't a card?

It's a postcard, not a baseball card. It was produced for a purpose other than to be collected or as a premium in a package. It's something that happens to have a baseball related picture. Doesn't mean it's not a neat piece to own. It's just not a baseball card by my definition. Same as a T3 or a Butterfinger premium is not a card by my definition.

Jay

Ok, this has hijacked my thread a litle bit but we should keep debating this. The most simple definition for a baseball card is A peice of cardboard that has a photo of something baseball related attached onto it. This means that a postcard is a baseball card.

Yes, I do know I hijacked my own thread. Thanks for all who posted on-topic.

-Randy

I understand what Jay is getting at with his definition, but personally I think PC's absolutely qualify as baseball cards. Ditto for cabinets and CDVs but obviously not pins, felts or paper thin premiums. To me, "baseball card" is a loose term that encompasses a variety of shapes and designs. And they were created for a variety of purposes as well (as a prize, as accompaniment to candy/tobacco, even for correspondence). As long it pictures a baseball player on a cardboard stock, then it's a baseball card as far as I'm concerned.

Speaking to the original question, very few baseball cards were produced in 1908; and if you don't consider postcards to be true baseball cards, then almost none were produced that year at all. From one of the nice baseball PC sets produced in 1908, here's a scarce Wolverine News co. Donovan:



*Scan from Vintageball.com

I'm with Ben's definition on this "As long it pictures a baseball player on a cardboard stock, then it's a baseball card". However, I note that there are exceptions. And that exceptions do not invalidate the "rule"; they are simply exceptions.

One exception offered by Hal Lewis is Hank Aaron's driver's license; which is a card that depicts a baseball player.

Got to love that Wagner, but it is almost twice actual size.

Awesome Wagner. Tell us novices about it.

Yes, it is an awesome Wagner, originally posted here by another member of our Forum. When I first saw it - I checked out the other cards in this set - I had to check the Cobb, Lajoie, etc. right away. The Wagner is the best, imo, by far.

http://www.oldcardboard.com/pc/pc805/pc805.asp?cardsetID=932

ItsOnlyGil wrote:
One exception offered by Hal Lewis is Hank Aaron's driver's license; which is a card that depicts a baseball player.

I will add to my other definition that it has to be mass produced.

-Randy

arandy wrote:I will add to my other definition that it has to be mass produced.

That might complicate things a bit, Randy. Take for example 1/1's like the Allegheny cards or the Alpha Photo Engravings. Are they not "baseball cards" simply because they weren't mass produced?



Perhaps you meant that they must have been made available to the public to qualify.

fisherboy7 wrote:
That might complicate things a bit, Randy. Take for example 1/1's like the Allegheny cards or the Alpha Photo Engravings. Are they not "baseball cards" simply because they weren't mass produced?

Hmmmmm...Ya got me Ben. I can't put in words what separates baseball cards from baseball topics on cardboard. You make a good point that they should be available to the public though.

-Randy

Driver's Licenses are mass produced (in the millions) by every State, and they are supposedly all 1/1. But not all are baseball cards. Some are Golf, Chess Players, criminals, actresses, etc. (multi-sport + non-sport set).