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Post by Red Sox Fan on Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:03 am

I have 52 of these cards from my Grandfather, I've found information on them but no value. I'd also like to get these in some kind of protective cover. All help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by terjung on Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:38 am

Hi, RSF.

Depending on what you end up wanting to do with them, you may want to get them graded / encapsulated. I would recommend SGC for that. http://www.sgccard.com/
Depending on how nice they are condition-wise and who is on them will determine what they are worth.

A good site for finding out general information is: http://www.oldcardboard.com/ (look under W cards for exhibits)... small blue text beneath the Old Cardboard logo.
Old Cardboard is a great starting off point, but I wouldn't rely on it to much for their "estimated value" as those numbers are out of date.

Posting scans would help, but short of that... this advice should get you started. Good luck!
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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by sabrjay on Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:12 pm

There isn't a big market for post WW2 Exhibits. If they were issued before WW2, then you've got some good stuff. With post WW2 stuff, even the DiMaggio and Williams have very little value as they are easily among the most frequently seen ones.

the post WW2 Exhibits are known as Salutation Exhibits as the facsimile autograph says Best Wishes or some such thing.

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by Red Sox Fan on Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:57 am

Thanks being new here I hope it's ok to post a couple of pics of them?







I have 52 total like these, I believe the are circa 1921-22

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by terjung on Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:52 am

The Walter Johnson on a 1921 Exhibits (Set 1). I don't know if there is any paper loss on the back (that greatly affects the grading), but assuming there is not, it looks like probably a $200-$250 card if graded.

The Rogers Hornsby is from the same set. It is hard to judge condition based on your scans since the edges and corners are not visible. Again, assuming no paper loss on the back and no creasing that I cannot see, you are probably somewhere aroung $150 for that one.

The Kerr is once again from the same set and is probably somewhere around $20-$80 depending on its condition. Once again, no corners are visible.

If it were me, I would at least get the HOFers graded since that not only establishes authenticity, but protects them as well. Also, it helps to get a better handle on their value. People are more likely to buy graded versions (by a respected third party grader such as SGC or PSA) than ungraded (raw) - at least online due to authenticity concerns.

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1921s

Post by hrbaker on Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:31 am

Do you have a Peckinpaugh?

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by fisherboy7 on Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:51 am

Red Sox Fan wrote:Thanks being new here I hope it's ok to post a couple of pics of them?

I have 52 total like these, I believe the are circa 1921-22

It's more than ok, it's encouraged

Those are some really nice cards! I concur with Brian (terjung) re: pricing. Do you have a list of players on hand? If you do end up selling them, consider keeping the nicest one...Johnson perhaps...as a keepsake.

Does anyone have an ebay link to those oversized card savers that fit Exhibits?

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by sabrjay on Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:36 pm

You definitely have some good ones. I know the 1921 Ruth is a popular one not only because it's Ruth but for the great pose. Great cards and feel free to post scans of as many as you like.

There is a section titled Helpful Information for Collectors. We have created virtual sets there with scans of cards from those sets. Feel free to start one for the 1921 Exhibits using your cards.

Welcome to the board. Don't be afraid to ask questions and keep sharing those scans. While many want to see the HOFers, there others like myself who love seeing the common players because some of the coolest poses are of common players.

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by Red Sox Fan on Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:57 pm

Many thanks for the help! I really like to get these in protective cover asap. My Grandfather wrote on the back of these, guess they were his thoughts on the player. I do have one Leon Goslin (Washington A.L ) looks like Granddad got him to autograph it in pencil? I'll post all the names tomorrow morning, and leave you some more pics.

Granddad's writting on back









I'll do a better job and get full picture on here next time.

Do you have a Peckinpaugh? No I do not,Sam Peckinpaugh was a director of one of my all time favorite movies though, The Wild Bunch

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by sabrjay on Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:05 pm

Great stuff with your Granddad writing notes on the back. Personally, I love it, but it kills the value. I'd love to see more of what he wrote about the players. It's always great to insight as to what fans thought of players back then and terminology they used. I love that phrase "Blood good"

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by hrbaker on Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:14 pm

"Monarch of All that he Surveys" sorta the pre-cursor to "Master of his own Domain"

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by Red Sox Fan on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:00 am

I'm working on the compete list of cards, thought you might enjoy seeing picture of Granddad's Glove. I don't know how he played catch with me much less playing on a "farm team" during the day!





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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by sabrjay on Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:33 am

You've got some great stuff. If you have kids or are planning on having them, I'd seriously consider keeping this stuff and passing it along to them. It's a great family legacy.

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by Red Sox Fan on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:29 am

This is long and was done on MS WORD, hope it goes through. I have 1 question posted at bottom of list, don't understand this??
I'm researching St. Louis Browns, did they disappear or merge. Sorry never heard of them. This place is giving me a baseball history lesson. Many thanks to all.

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ps. I'm seeing what appears to be Red Sox players in pin stripes????? Please say it ain't so!


I’m going to put cards the way I see them on here as I’m not sure of the difference between 1921 & 1922 issue. “Bold letters” are what My Granddad wrote on the back!



Ray Shalk (catcher) Chicago A.L.

Ray W. Shalk (catcher) Chicago Am. L

Harry Heilman (fielder) Detroit A.L. “SLUGGER OF THE SLUGGERS”

Tris Speaker (Manager) Cleveland A.L. “THE SMILE WHICH LOGED HIM IN 6th PLACE

Carl W. Mays (pitcher) New York A.L. “THE SUBWAY ARTIST

Chas Robertson Chicago A.L. “PERFECT BALL FRAME

Rollie C. Naylor (pitcher) Philadelphia Am.L.

John Collins (outfielder) Boston Am. L

Stanley Coveleskie (pitcher) Cleveland Am. L.

Anthony Lazzeri New York A.L.

Lack D. Wheat (outfielder) Brooklyn N.L.

Walter L. Holke (infielder) Boston N.L.

Kenneth Williams St. Louis A.L.

Kenneth R.Williams (outfielder) St. Louis Am.L.

George O’Neil (catcher) Boston N.L.

Gerber (infield) St. Louis A.L. (single name????)

Ed (Bing) Miller Philadelphia A.L.

Allen Sothoron (pitcher) Cleveland A. L.

Walter Mails (pitcher) Cleveland A. L.

Jack Smith St. Louis N.L

Urban Shocker (pitcher) St. Louis Am.L.

Robt.. Veach (outfielder) Detroit Am. L.

Sherrod Smith Brooklyn N.L.

Curtis Walker Philadelphia N..L.

Cy Williams (outfielder) Philadelphia N..L.

S.F. “Steve” O’Neil (catcher) Cleveland. Am. L

Robert W. Muesel (outfield) New York A.L.

Walton E. Cruse (outfielder) Boston N.L.

John Bassler (catcher) Detroit A.L.

Everett Scott (infielder) New York A.L.

Walter J. Maranville (infielder) Pittsburg N.L.

Sam Harris (infielder) Washington A.L.

Jesse Haines (pitcher) St. Louis N.L

Geo. H. Sisler (infielder) St. Louis A.L. “THE MAZARIN

Leon Goslin Washington A.L. THIS APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN AUTOGRAPHED IN PENCIL. Washington Senators would have been closest MLB team to Granddad who lived in North Carolina!

Sam P.Jones (pitcher) Boston Am. L.

Howard Ehmke (pitcher) Boston A. L.

Fred Wingfield Boston A. L.





Walter P. Johnson (pitcher) Washington Am.L.

Jacob E. Daubert (infielder) Cincinnati N.L.”GOOD YER

Ralph “Cy” Perkins (catcher) Philadelphia Am.L.”BLOOD GOOD

Dick Kerr (pitcher) Chicago Am. L. “THE HERO

Joe Judge Washington A.L.”MONARCH OF ALL HE SURVEYS

J.Frank Baker (infielder) New York A.L.

Eddie Collins Philadelphia A..L.

Eddie T. Collins (infielder) Chicago Am. L

Rogers Hornsby (infield) St. Louis N.L.

Grover C. Alexander (pitcher) Chicago N.L.

W.C.”Red” Faber (pitcher) Chicago Am.L.

J. “Stuffy” McInnis (infielder) Boston Am. L”THE PREMIRE”

Earl Smith (catcher) New York N.L.

Edwin Rommel (pitcher) Philadelphia A..L

W.M.Hargrave St. Louis A.L.

Fred Haney Boston A.L. (CARD SHOWS HIM IN DETROIT UNIFORM)

Geo. Maisel (outfielder) Chicago N.L.

William L. Killifer (catcher) Chicago N.L.

George Dauss (pitcher) Detroit Am.L.

W.S.Shanks(infielder) Washington Am.L.”THE SWING THAT COUNTS” (CARD SHOWS HIM IN A’s UNIFORM)

Derrill Pratt Boston A.L.

Aaron Ward (infielder) New York A.L.

H.M “Hank” Gowdy (catcher) Boston N.L.

Willie Kamm Chicago A.L.

George Cutshaw (infielder) Detroit A.L.

Ivy B. Wingo (catcher) Cincinnati N.L.”

Geo. W. Burns Cleveland A.L.

Joe Dugan Boston A.L.









Anybody want to guess at this one I’m lost

Geo. H. Sisler (infielder) St. Louis A.L. “THE MAZARIN



Mazarin

Jules , original name Giulio Mazarini. 1602--61, French cardinal and statesman, born in Italy. He succeeded Richelieu (1642) as chief minister to Louis XIII and under the regency of Anne of Austria (1643--61). Despite the disturbances of the Fronde (1648--53), he strengthened the power of France in Europe



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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by terjung on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:35 am

sabrjay wrote:You've got some great stuff. If you have kids or are planning on having them, I'd seriously consider keeping this stuff and passing it along to them. It's a great family legacy.

Completely agree. Especially with the writing on the back of some of the Exhibits - that leads to more "worth" than "value". Selling all of the Exhibits and the glove wouldn't lead to "life changing" money, so I would be inclined to keep and treasure them if I were you. That is a great looking glove too. Congratulations on having that kind of family heirloom! Very very cool. Thanks for sharing! As Ben said (and it is his board), never feel bashful about posting pictures here. You are among friends.

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by nolemmings on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:55 am

Can't help you with the Mazarin, unless it's some sort of variation of Missourian, as Sisler played in St. Louis (but was born in OH).

BTW, the St. Louis Browns became the Baltimore Orioles after the 1953 season.

EDITED TO ADD: Just spot checking your list, I see where you have a card of Tony Lazzeri, who did not play in the Big Leagues until 1926--so your cards include more than just the 1921 and 1922 sets.


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Post by sabrjay on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:15 am

Just to add a little more to your Brownies lesson. The franchise originally started in Milwaukee as the Brewers in 1901. They moved to St Louis and became the Browns in 1902. The much hated Yankees aren't even an original AL franchise. They started their existence in Baltimore and didn't move to New York until 1903 and became the Highlanders.

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by Red Sox Fan on Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:08 am

BTW, the St. Louis Browns became the Baltimore Orioles after the 1953 season.
I'm just found out that the Baltimore Orioles were a farm team for the Red Sox WOW that's how the $#@^ Yankees got the Babe

EDITED TO ADD: Just spot checking your list, I see where you have a card of Tony Lazzeri, who did not play in the Big Leagues until 1926--so your cards include more than just the 1921 and 1922 sets.

Thanks, I'm getting a crash course here. Need to take better pics as well


I talk to my Dad today and asked him to see if he can dig up a team photo of my Granddad on the farm team he played for, I THINK it was for the Cubs? Is the a web site that might have these pics or history. He was born in 1903 so 1919 on would be a good guess for time frame.

I'm still trying to find protective sleeves for these and someone in Norfolk Virginia area to grade them. I DO NOT INTEND TO SELL THEM, I'll pass them on to my daughter but like a round about $$$ amount.

Any more info you guys can pass on will help out.

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Re: Exhibit Supply Company of Chicago

Post by sabrjay on Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:07 pm

At the time your grandfather played, minor league teams were not affiliated with any MLB teams.

I don't think the farm system as we know it started until around the 1930s. Previous to that, teams just purchased the contract of a minor league player that they wanted. The reason the PCL was such a good league for so long is that they paid their players well. Often more than what MLB teams would pay. This is a big reason why Lefty O'Doul spent much of his career in the PCL rather than with MLB teams.

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Lazzeri

Post by hrbaker on Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:18 pm

"Poosh 'Em Up" Lazzeri appears to be a 1927 Exhibit. Does it have a greenish tint to it?

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