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Post by scott elkins Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:09 pm

For me, the one card that supposedly exists, but I have never seen is an E92 Croft's Cocoa Knight.

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Post by rman444 Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:58 am

T216 Virginia Extra Cobb and Wagner?
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Post by phlflyer1 Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:03 am

scott elkins wrote:For me, the one card that supposedly exists, but I have never seen is an E92 Croft's Cocoa Knight.

One of these years, Scott, one will turn up.

Until then, I'll keep chasing the dream...

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Cards listed in Vintage Sets that might not exist..... Empty W600 Rickey

Post by the-illini Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:26 am

One that I believe has never appeared anywhere is a W600 Sporting Life cabinet card of Branch Rickey. He is listed in the checklist, but I dont think an example has ever surfaced.

I am pretty sure there are several other checklisted W600s that haven't been found, but this is one card I always hoped I would stumble across with a BIN on ebay - fat chance! Very Happy
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Post by fisherboy7 Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:34 am

Great call on the W600 Rickey, Chris. Never seen one before.

I've wondered about a bunch of the checklisted W600's as well. Very intriguing set. Never seen a W600 Mack before. What a cool card that would be huh? Mack's cards are kind of like Plank's in that the so many of them share the same portrait shot (M116, e96, e104, d359, etc). I'm assuming if the Mack does in fact exist, it would have that same portrait shot. Rickey is a whole other story though, as he has so few cards to begin with.
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Post by r337man Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:05 am

Not real vintage but the 1950 Callahan Gehringer dark cap.
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Post by sabrjay Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:34 am

Since you could order any player that was on a major league at the time, the checklist was generated from that. It's highly unlikely that there was a card make for every player during that time period. Obviously, the most popular players of the day are the ones that we see the most. It's also the reason I don't include the w600s in my pursuit of my player set. There is just no way to know what is out there.

It might be a neat idea to start a thread to compile a list of known cards.

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Post by scott elkins Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:17 am

Jay - my thoughts exactly - I am sure there were players whom only their immediate family ordered cards of and other, more popular players, that everyone wanted.

What someone could do in a situation like this, and it could pay off (or the cards could be long gone), is to track down some printer's employees' families and see if they have any cards from the set. I am sure ALL players were printed - while some definitely were requested more than others and survived to this day is another story. I know if I worked at the printer, I would want an entire set. Who knows, maybe an employee took home an entire set and it is setting in one of their great grandkid's attic as we speak?

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Cards listed in Vintage Sets that might not exist..... Empty B18 Steve O'Neill Red Pennants

Post by vintagecatcher Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:45 pm

The Price Guides list a third variation for Steve O'Neill with red pennants. I have never seen one, and I have never had anyone respond to my posts inquiring whether it does actually exist.

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Post by sabrjay Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:45 pm

The way the cards were made, I don't they made any of them ahead of time, except maybe the big stars like Wagner and Mathewson. They are photos pasted to a cardboard mount. They most likely waited for the order, then printed the photo, mounted and sent it on its way.

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Post by scott elkins Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:48 am

What could have happened is the photos were already printed (diff. qtys. of course - more of Cobb, Matty, etc. than commons), then when an order came in, they were mounted and shipped. This would seem more streamline than printing the photos after the order IMHO.

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Post by sabrjay Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:52 am

You have to remember, this was the turn of the century. Service was much more personalized back then and would have been cheaper to wait to print them than make a bunch ahead of time. No waste. It wouldn't make sense in todays business world, but back then, would have been the norm.

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