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Post by TheBig6 Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:37 pm

Does anybody know how many differentr 2 player cards are known in the n172 set
A list would be nice also., I just bought my first one and seems like it would be a nice subset to work on if there aren't a bunch of hofers..
I wouldn't care about collecting team or text variations of the same pose.
I'll post the one I got when it gets here.
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Post by rhettyeakley Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:29 pm

Jerry, there are two different types of "2 player" cards in the Old Judge set. The first, and the more desirable ones, have both players idenified on front while the Second type only has one of the players ID'ed on front (usually the second player has subsequently been identified but not in all cases). Are you looking for a list of the first type or both?

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Post by TheBig6 Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:38 pm

Thanks Rhett
Both if not to much trouble or lengthy, it would be nice to know each player but wouldn't effect my buying decision any.
Rhett , do you know the other player in the Thomas Burns Card?
Thats the one I bought
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Post by rhettyeakley Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:40 am

I think I got them all with these two lists below...

Type 1 (Both players ID'ed)
9. Andrews and Hoover
23. Bastian & Schriver
28. Bierbauer & Gamble
76. Clark & Hughes
149. Ewing & Mascot (Willie Breslin)
175. Fulmer & Tucker
180. Gardner & Murray
222. Henderson & Greer
234. Horner & Warner
251. Keefe & Richardson (both on ground)
251. Keefe & Richardson (Keefe standing)
255. Kelly(umpire) & Powell
269. Krieg & Klopf
346. Nicol & Reilly (Long & Short) -side by side
346. Nicol & Reilly -facing each other (I've never seen this version before but supposedly it exists)
370. Pinkney & Toole (pose only found as cabinet)
397. Sage & Van Dyke
464. Trott & Burns
485. Welch & Gleason
502. Williamson & Willie Hahm (mascot)

Type 2 (only one player ID'ed)
12. Joseph Ardner (unidentified other player)
19. Sam Barkley (Jocko Fields)
59. Thomas Burns (unidentified other player)
66. Hick Carpenter (unidentified other player)
154. John Farrell (unidentified other player)
157. Charlie Ferguson (Tommy McCarthy)
185. Joe Gerhardt (Jack Lynch)
160. Jocko Fields (Sam Barkley at bat)
160. Jocko Fields (Sam Barkley sliding)
237. Bill Howes[Hawes] (unidentified other player)
269. Bill Krieg (tagging unidentified player)
301. Tommy McCarthy (unidentified other player-probably Ferguson but you can't see his face)
309. Chippy McGarr (McQuaid as umpire)
311. John McGlone (Gus Albert)
337. George Myers (unidentified other player)
340. Billy Nash (tagging Hoss Radbourn)
345. Parson Nicholson (unidentified other player)
350. Billy O'Brien (tagging John Irwin)
353. Pat O'Connell (tagging unidentified player-you only see the side of a head & an arm of other guy)
363. Jimmy Peeples (Hardy Henderson)
365. Patrick Pattee (Bobby Lowe)
366. Fred Pfeffer (tagging unidentified other player)
372. Henry Porter (unidentified other player)
377. Hoss Radbourn (tagging Billy Nash)
389. M. C. Robinson (unidentified other player)
416. George Shoch (John Gaffney)
449. Ed Swartwood (unidentified other player)
499. Art Whitney (with dog--okay this isn't another person but it is another mammal!)

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Post by TheBig6 Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:54 am

Thanks for the List, Rhett
Your Card knowledge is a great asset to this board.
Looks like about 48 or so diff. poses, Probally not doable for me but it might be fun to chase a few of them.
Good Luck and thanks again

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Post by sabrjay Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:24 pm

That would be a very cool subset to own. I didn't realize there were so many two player/mammal cards in the set.
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Post by pro9 Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:39 pm

I'm surprised Rhett doesn't know Whitney's dog's name. Smile

On a more serious note, I thought that Fessenden (umpire) was unidentified on a player's card.

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Post by rhettyeakley Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:38 pm

I missed at least one...

Type 2 (only one player ID'ed)...
152. Bill Farmer (tagging a sliding Hardie Henderson)

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Post by ValKehl Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:28 am

Rhett - Per The Washington Senators Checklist Book, put out in 1995 by DC area collector Tom Holster and which contains a listing of all the variations of all the Washington N172s (presumably, all the cards known to exist at that time), the other Washington player on #154 is Paul Hines. I have no idea if this is correct or not, as this is one of the Washington OJs that I need for my subset.
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Post by Jay Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:59 pm

All this information is available in the Old Judge book. BTW, since you asked, the dog in Whitney with Dog, was named Midget. We found this out after the book was published.

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Post by pro9 Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:36 pm

I agree, for anybody remotely interested in Old Judges the book is invaluable. Even if you don't own an Old Judge you will find the book an interesting read.
Jay, will there be an update (with information like Midget the dog) posted anywhere online so we can print it out and add it to the book?

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Post by terjung Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:35 pm

pro9 wrote:I agree, for anybody remotely interested in Old Judges the book is invaluable. Even if you don't own an Old Judge you will find the book an interesting read.
Jay, will there be an update (with information like Midget the dog) posted anywhere online so we can print it out and add it to the book?

I too value my copy of the OJ book even though I have never owned a single OJ. An excellent resource that provides great insight into the world of Old Judges.
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Post by jbonie Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:47 pm

How does one go about acquiring an OJ book? I'd like to have one...

Thanks,

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Post by terjung Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:16 am

jbonie wrote:How does one go about acquiring an OJ book? I'd like to have one...

Thanks,

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If "Jay" above is Jay Miller (and I think it is do to his reference to knowing the dog's name after publishing), then he is one of the authors (and may just be the person who knows the most about OJs on the planet). Contact him. If he can't help you, then let me know and I'll send you Richard Masson's email address (one of the other authors who has copies available).
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Post by jbonie Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:17 am

Thank you!
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Post by Jay Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:55 am

Jamie-Hi! If you send Richard Masson an email he will tell you how to order the book. His email address is Richard@ponymass.com

We should do an update at some point but inertia is strong. When we do it will probably just be a spiral bound booklet. Anything more than that would not make economic sense.

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Post by jbonie Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:05 pm

Thank you Jay, and welcome to the board.
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