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Post by terjung Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:52 pm

Fill in the __________ with a prewar set (or several) and briefly explain why.

Given their scarcity, I am surprised that __________ aren't valued higher than they are.

I have a set or two that I would put in that blank, but I want to see what others think are "undervalued" from a scarcity standpoint.
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Post by Square_Frame_Ramly Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:34 pm

Given their scarcity, I am surprised that _E103 set_ aren't valued higher than they are.


I would bet its the same as any set since the economy is in the dumps!!!


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Post by 3-2-count Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:01 pm

Given their scarcity, I am surprised that cards from the (T-214 Victory Tobacco set) aren't valued higher than they are.

I know their scarcity alone probably hurts them more than anything, but shouldn't this make them more valuable.
There are many other sets rarer than T214's that hold their value because of the scarcity factor.
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Post by fisherboy7 Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:24 pm

I actually think the E103 set is somewhat overvalued. They are tough cards, but tough enough to merit $4-500 for VG commons? I'm not so sure. There was a time when E103's were undervalued, and that was probably 6-7 years ago. I've seen some obscene prices on E103's over the past few years.

T214 Victory's are very scarce, but also quite expensive. I'd probably call them more underappreciated than undervalued. When they come to market they sell for big bucks, no?

Since I'm finished trashing everyone else's picks, it's time for mine Razz

Given their scarcity, I am surprised that V89 William Patersons aren't valued higher than they are. They are barely discussed and seldomly show up for sale, but it's a beautiful, scarce set that deserves more attention imo. Tons of neat poses that are unique to the set as well, including several horizontals.

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Nice topic Brian.
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Post by bowlingshoeguy Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:18 pm

Given their scarcity, I am surprised that T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps aren't valued higher than they are.

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The value of these has definately gone up in the last few years, but given the condition sensitive issue and the lack of them up for sale, I definately think this set is under valued.

I think sometimes the scarcity hurts the value because alot of people are unaware of them because they are rarely offered for sale.

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Post by cccc Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:31 pm

i feel t204s are undervalued...prolly a little too scarce for most collectors to notice/collect. still a "major" known set (not regional or tough type sets w/incomplete checklists) with lots of hof'ers with a unique design.
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Post by Bicem Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:25 pm

bowlingshoeguy wrote:

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I think sometimes the scarcity hurts the value because alot of people are unaware of them because they are rarely offered for sale.

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plus, they look like stamps.
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Post by rman444 Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:01 pm

Bicem wrote:
bowlingshoeguy wrote:

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I think sometimes the scarcity hurts the value because alot of people are unaware of them because they are rarely offered for sale.

Lee

plus, they look like stamps.

plus, they are stamps.
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Post by rman444 Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:03 pm

3-2-count wrote:Given their scarcity, I am surprised that cards from the (T-214 Victory Tobacco set) aren't valued higher than they are.

I know their scarcity alone probably hurts them more than anything, but shouldn't this make them more valuable.
There are many other sets rarer than T214's that hold their value because of the scarcity factor.
Why no love for the Victory's? scratch

Red Portrait Cobb with Ty Cobb back = 12 known
Red Portrait Cobb with Victory back = 2 known

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Post by bowlingshoeguy Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:07 am

I still would love to know how the Piedmont Art Stamps were distributed.

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Post by phlflyer1 Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:32 pm

rman444 wrote:
Bicem wrote:
bowlingshoeguy wrote:

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I think sometimes the scarcity hurts the value because alot of people are unaware of them because they are rarely offered for sale.

Lee

plus, they look like stamps.

plus, they are stamps.

They are what we thought they were!

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Post by terjung Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:18 pm

I have never seen one in person. How big are those stamps anyway?
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Post by bowlingshoeguy Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:52 pm

The dimensions are 1 1/2 X 2 5/8ths, pretty close to the standard T card.

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Post by terjung Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:25 pm

I had never heard of the V89 William Paterson set prior to you bringing it up, Ben. Thank you for doing so. That was exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. Scanning through the checklist, V89 has quite a few (13, in fact) HOFers that aren't covered by my E107/Goudey quest. Hmmm....
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Post by terjung Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:15 pm

... just lost a long post.

Abbreviating my long windedness...

Given its scarcity, I am surprised that the T207 set doesn't get more love than it does. SGC shows pop reports of less than 10 for most of the issues. I guess people love purple backgrounds far more than brown.

To a different scarcity question, I am surprised the 1914 and 1915 similar-posed Cracker Jacks are so similarly priced given the card stock differences and the condition scarcity of the '14 set. Obviously, the Matty in '14 is an exception due to the different pose, but why wouldn't the other issues be similarly different in price? I guess the demand is more for the image than the year. This thread was intended to be more about true scarcity than condition scarcity, but I figured I would throw that in for no extra charge.
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Post by the-illini Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:56 pm

Love to see the Wm Paterson's getting some love! One of my favorite sets and quite undervalued given their availability IMO...

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Post by fisherboy7 Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:59 pm

Stunning cards Chris, that Frisch is Shocked That's like a 9 bunny card you got there. Patersons are the coolest - the Mcgraw is my personal favorite, showing him in his manager's suit/hat, knee up in the dugout. Is the Meusel the only horizontal in the set?
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Post by sabrjay Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:36 am

From the few cards I've seen of the set, it is definitely among the best for picture selection.

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Post by bowlingshoeguy Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:33 am

Damn, that Frisch and Jackson look alot alike and seem to have similar swings from different sides of the plate.

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Post by sabrjay Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:11 pm

Does the waite Hoyt card actually picture Herb Penock? I ask because the Hoyt name is crossed off and Penock written in.

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Post by terjung Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:21 pm

bowlingshoeguy wrote:Damn, that Frisch and Jackson look alot alike and seem to have similar swings from different sides of the plate.

Lee

Completely agree. I think it is the same person (not sure who). The swing, the stance, the socks, the gate behind him all point to it being the same guy. Perhaps he was a switch hitter and swung from the other side for the second pic? I haven't checked to see if either of those two fellas was a switch hitter, but that is my guess.

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Post by the-illini Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:25 pm

I think its just a coincidence and that the photographer likely got those pics on the same day. Here is a close-up of Jackson:

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The v89 Frisch is pretty recognizable as Frank Frisch IMO.
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