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Post by TheBig6 Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:30 pm

Coupled with not many cards from his playing career and Hof election. This one performed quite Nicely. Wonder what this card would have sold for in 2007 before his election to HOF.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180227786149
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Post by sabrjay Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:44 pm

Did you link the wrong card because BIlly Southworth is not in the HOF.

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Post by fisherboy7 Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:54 pm

Billy Southworth, who was named by the Veterans Committee to the Hall of Fame in 2007, was a major league player for 13 seasons and also a major league manager for 13 seasons. As a player he was above average, while as a manager he had a notable .597 winning percentage, and won the pennant four times. Two of the wartime teams he managed won the World Series.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Billy_Southworth

BTW I think that W514 price is absurd. That's as much as a Ruth would cost from that set.
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Post by TheBig6 Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:11 pm

Ben, I agree, That price is absurd. My snipe was set at 37.77 lol!
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Post by sabrjay Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:01 am

This directly from the BBHOF website:

Results of the 2007 Player Ballot (62 needed for election): Santo (57
votes, 69.5%), Jim Kaat (52, 63.4%), Gil Hodges (50, 61%), Tony Oliva
(47, 57.3%), Maury Wills (33, 40.2%), Joe Torre (26, 31.7%), Don
Newcombe (17, 20.7%), Vada Pinson (16, 19.5%), Roger Maris (15, 18.3%),
Lefty O'Doul (15, 18.3%), Luis Tiant (15, 18.3%), Curt Flood (14,
17.1%), Al Oliver (14, 17.1%), Mickey Vernon (14, 17.1%), Minnie Minoso
(12, 14.6%), Cecil Travis (12, 14.6%), Dick Allen (11, 13.4%), Marty
Marion (11, 13.4%), Joe Gordon (10, 12.2%), Ken Boyer (9, 11%), Mickey
Lolich (8, 9.8%), Wes Ferrell (7, 8.5%), Sparky Lyle (6, 7.3%), Carl
Mays (6, 7.3%), Thurman Munson (6, 7.3%), Rocky Colavito (5, 6.1%) and
Bobby Bonds (1, 1.2%).
Results of the 2007 Composite Ballot (61 needed for election):
Harvey (52 votes, 64.2%), Marvin Miller (51, 63%), Walter O'Malley (36,
44.4%), Buzzie Bavasi (30, 37%), Dick Williams (30, 37%), Whitey Herzog
(29, 35.8%), Bill White (24, 29.6%), Bowie Kuhn (14, 17.3%), August
Busch Jr. (13, 16%), Billy Martin (12, 14.8%), Charley O. Finley (10,
12.3%), Gabe Paul (10, 12.3%), Paul Richards (10, 12.3%), Phil Wrigley
(9, 11.1%) and Harry Dalton (8, 9.9%).

Southworth isn't even on the ballot

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Post by the-illini Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:30 am

Jay,

The Veterans Committee put him in this year in the managers and executives election, along with Barney Dreyfuss from the deadball era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_Hall_of_Fame_balloting,_2008
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Post by TheBig6 Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:34 am

Jay
Here's an article I found about the Veterans Committee inductions.
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071203&content_id=5714&vkey=hof_pr
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Post by sabrjay Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:35 am

OK, I see the error. He is part of the 2008 ballot, not 2007. It's still odd that baseball-reference.com doesn't list him as a HOFer yet. Or do they wait until a person is officially inducted?

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Post by Gary! Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:27 am

Wow - that price is crazy!
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Post by ItsOnlyGil Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:44 am

I have a bunch of old Beckett Price Guides which I picked up through the years, and being a pack rat, have kept eventhough I realize that they did not always keep their fingers on the pulse of the pre-war marketplace. The last one I bought was 1991, until a few years ago, I picked up a new one, just for continuity of the mostly useless information. insane

Tonight I looked at the price changes reported for w517 strip cards. In 1979 they did not list individual card prices, but stated that a vg/ex common was valued at $8.50. The following updates to that price are indicated:

...............................1982..............1984.............1988.............1991.............2004
common vg/ex........$8.50............$8.00...........$22.50..........$20.00..........$20.00
Ruth vg/ex.............$80/100.....$225/150........$500/600......$500/600.....$750/1000 vg
Foxx vg/ex................$24...............$21................$60..............$200............$225 vg
Gehrig vg/ex..............$50...............$45................$275............$300............$500 vg


I believe that when taken over this 25 year span, the inherent inaccuracies associated with a potential lack of attention to between year price variations are normalized out, and the trend indicated is likely realistic. Therefore, for this set it can be concluded that stars outperformed commons, and top stars outperformed near top stars, and actually increased 10x.
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