W504 Walter Johnson - WaJo for my good friend Val

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Post by r337man on Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:15 am

Here you go Val!

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Post by ullmandds on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:07 am

nice!  never seen one of those.  is there a babe ruth?
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Post by ValKehl on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:11 am

Hey Dan, this card is in such sad shape that I'm sure it detracts from the other fantastic WaJos in your collection - so, how about selling or trading it to me?!   Smile 

Seriously, many thanks for showing this WaJo card, which may possibly be the only one to exist!
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Post by ValKehl on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:16 am

Pete, The Standard Catalog of Vintage BB Cards shows that W504s were produced for 4 teams - Dodgers, Giants, Yankees & Senators. Ruth is listed as being one of the Yankees. I believe the Senators are considered the toughest to find and the Dodgers the easiest to find.
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:16 am

there've got to be more!
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Post by ValKehl on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:25 am

Pete, there are 16 individual player cards for each team, plus a team card. My 2011 edition of the Standard Catalog lists only 9 of the 16 Senators, the remainder being unknown, at least to the Catalog folks. And, WaJo is NOT among the 9 listed listed. Now, it may be that later edition of this Catalog have more of the Senators listed. All 16 players on the other 3 teams are check-listed.
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:27 am

no doubt it's a toughie, Val...I just have a hard time beliebing that many cards are truly 1 of a kind. bananarama
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Post by ValKehl on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:55 am

Pete, what is your definition of "many" in this context? I truly believe there are many (as in hundreds) uniquely-known-to-exist vintage cards. For starters, you have the 70+ 1921 Herpolsheimer's cards - in addition to the WaJo example I am thrilled to have picked up in the LOTG Auction, I have a few other WaJos that are 1 of 1's, as far as I can determine. I realize that as the "old-timer" collections come to light over the next 20 years or so, additional examples of cards thought to be 1 of 1's will surface. But, if every unknown vintage card surfaced, I still think there would be hundreds of 1 of 1's.
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:00 pm

Unique sets like the 21' Herpolsheimers and the 04' Allegheny cards are anomalies.  There are not "many" sets that are unique such as these...in fact besides maybe a 19th c set or 2(alpha engraving comes to mind) I can't really think of any other "unique" sets of which only 1 set is known to exist.  I have no issue with these such cards being termed 1 of a kind. 

I am a firm believer that there are numerous "old time" collections out there...of substantial quality and magnitude covering a great breadth of variety of cards...and many supposed 1 of a kinds will be ultimately proven to be maybe...2-3-4 of a kind...that's all.  

When people discuss T206 fr/back combos as being 1 of a kind...I just can't believe that only one card out of millions and millions potentially produced/or survived.  And while I realize that comparing t206 to w504 is like comparing the GDP of the US to that of Burundi...I still have a hard time believing there is only 1!

I just feel the term is way overused...and is mainly used as an optimistic marketing tool in many cases.

I just have a really hard time believing that
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Post by r337man on Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:18 pm

I will try to scan the Ruth tonight guys.  Val did you oust me on the Herp WaJo in Loveofthegame?
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Post by sabrjay on Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:12 pm

Pete, what about Rowdy Lowdy?  Razz 

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Post by ullmandds on Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:02 pm

Well, Jay...with the total population of red cross t207's as low as it is....most of which are 1 of 1's...originally from the bayou...he could be 1 of a kind...good chance of that!  He's dead to me!!!!! Very Happy
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Post by r337man on Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:49 pm

Ruth scan coming tonight! W504 RUTH
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:53 pm

should I make popcorn?
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Post by sabrjay on Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:38 am

popcorn 

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Post by ValKehl on Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:40 am

r337man wrote:Val did you oust me on the Herp WaJo in Loveofthegame?

Hey Dan, you better believe I did!!!  It's gotta be the first time I ever ousted you on a scarce WaJo!   bananarama   Actually, I figured you must have fallen asleep - I waited until after 2 a.m. to enter my max bid.
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Post by ullmandds on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:20 pm

My popcorn's long gone...I'll wait to make more til the light dims!
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Post by r337man on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:56 pm

ValKehl wrote:
r337man wrote:Val did you oust me on the Herp WaJo in Loveofthegame?

Hey Dan, you better believe I did!!!  It's gotta be the first time I ever ousted you on a scarce WaJo!   bananarama   Actually, I figured you must have fallen asleep - I waited until after 2 a.m. to enter my max bid.
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Good for you Val!

2am?  10pm and u wud have still had me Smile

I don't stay up any longer for these things

I was ousted when it first hit ebay and now for the 2nd time!

ugh!  i make a great loser don't I?

too funny
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