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Post by bowlingshoeguy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:52 am

I need help IDing the issue of this Billy Herman card:



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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by pariah1107 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:24 am

Looks like a 1936 S & S Game card with the "action" sides removed. Good luck on the upcoming auction!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-S-S-Game-Card-Bill-Herman-/160865334936?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2574523698
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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by nolemmings on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:45 am

Probably the same photo and similar design as an S&S card, but it's actually much scarcer-- a 1936 E-Unc Candy card. There's a Gehringer on ebay now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-E-UNC-Candy-Charlie-Gehringer-SGC-40-/160021906199?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item25420c8317
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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by bowlingshoeguy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:38 pm

Thanks Todd, very interesting definately could be either. Any one else have an opinion?

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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by ullmandds on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:55 pm

I think Todd nailed it...I initially thought it was/looked like ss card...but I'd call it the e-unc instead.
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here's another one (not mine)

Post by nolemmings on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:44 pm

note the wide border on top is incompatible with the actual S&S cards:



Edited to add: I see where the two stray line segments of this Young--one on each side--seem to line up with where the S&S cards divide information for their game, which could mean these were some sort of proofs or pre-production samples. Just speculating.


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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by bowlingshoeguy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:52 pm

Todd, Is the above card an S & S? The black lines on the side may be the give away that they are S & S cards. I tried visually lining up the Herman I have with a full S & S card and they seem to line up.

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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by nolemmings on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:54 pm

Lee, see my edit, which I was typing as you were. The Young card is advertised by a net54er as a 1936 E-Unc.
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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by pariah1107 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:56 pm

The horizontal hash on the right side of the Herman seems to indicate a dividing line for the cards "action" segments. It's in the right place when compared to complete S&S listed above. The Floyd Young also has these same (including something written down the right side). I was under the impression e-unc candy did not have them. This is interesting, and I would like to know is there a size difference?

My badd guys did not read the edits above before posting.
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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by glenv on Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:04 pm

The S&S cards have a printed green or tan(?) back. The E-Unc would be plain cardboard and white or grey. The E-Unc's are on cardboard stock. Not sure about the S&S's, but would expect them to be on more of a playing card stock...

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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by pariah1107 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:19 pm

Awesome Glenv! Thanks Todd. I must plead ignorance on this one, I have never seen either card in person. My mistake.
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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by bowlingshoeguy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:22 pm

I have to run but will post a scan of the back in about an hour.

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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by BigGuy219 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:26 pm

Lee,

Behind the scenes question. Since taking over, you've had to get IDs a few times.

Does that imply people just send you a box of stuff and say, "Here. Sell this!" and not tell you what it is?

The sausage making part of the industry is always interesting to me.
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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by bowlingshoeguy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:09 pm

The card appears to be factory cut and measures evenly, Back Scan:





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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by bowlingshoeguy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:12 pm

Chris,

This consignor was very good about ID ing most of his stuff, he mostly coliected in the 50s and 60s with only 2 30s items he wasn't sure about. But yes, I have had consignors basically just dump stuff on me with no ID of the items.

By the way, Pete was very good about IDing his items.

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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by ullmandds on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:22 pm

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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by bowlingshoeguy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:23 pm

What does that mean, Pete when your banana stops dancing?
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Re: Billy Herman ID help

Post by ullmandds on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:56 pm

When the banana stops dancing...the music's over...turn out the lights!
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