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1894 Kansas City Cowboys with Young Joe McGinnity

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Post by inthecards Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:49 pm

19"x15" - looks better than the image shown (quick phone snap). Out of the family of G.W. Darby, who pitched for KC in 94-95. The Iron Man has the fountain pen scribble on his shoulder.

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Post by ullmandds Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:57 pm

Wow...awesome photo!
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Post by inthecards Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:27 pm

Thanks - been doing some research about it and found a picture of this picture - this 2010 SCP auction has G.W. Darby's writing on the back of who all the players were along with their numbers on the front. Funny thing is you can see where Darby's name is on the arm in the small photo (in pencil on the big picture) and also that the fountain pen stain must have happened post ~1932, which is when Darby and his wife moved from Los Angeles to Sacramento.

I don't think I'm permitted to post links but here are the small versions from the SCP auction:
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Post by sabrjay Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:08 am

Great stuff. It's always nice to come across photos, etc that have info on the back, especially when it is a 19c minor league team. Looks like there are to 7s. Guessing the guy to the left of Darby is supposed to be #7
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Post by terjung Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:21 pm

Great piece! Interesting that he was known as the Iron Man so early on in his career (presumably in 1895).


Anybody else have some McGinnity cards or pieces to add to the display?

I used to have a second one, but here is the only McGinnity item that still resides in my collection...



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Post by sabrjay Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:34 pm

Says a lot about the McGinnity's durability if you can get the nickname Iron Man in an era when pitchers almost always finished their games.
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Post by terjung Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:36 pm

Exactly right, Jay. It must have been due to him being a double header king.
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Post by terjung Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:38 pm

Interesting tidbit from Wikipedia...

McGinnity was perhaps best known for starting both ends of a doubleheader in 1903, a feat which he performed three times in a single month (he won all six games). He acquired his nickname, "Iron Man," before his doubleheader pitching. According to Lee Allen in The National League Story (1961), a reporter asked Joe, then a minor-league pitcher, what he did in between seasons. "I'm an iron man," he answered. "I work in a foundry."
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Post by sabrjay Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:41 pm

Very cool tidbit. Little did he know how prophetic that would be.
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Post by pariah1107 Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:47 pm

Awesome find... complete with names... unbelievable!

Great follow-up on the foundry story of "Iron Man" McGinnity. Three doubleheaders in one month, damn... that nickname was well deserved.
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Post by Bosox Blair Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:58 pm

Here's the 1903 Burr McIntosh McGinnity (also posted in Feb. 2012 pickups):

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Post by terjung Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:52 am

nice, Blair!
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Post by bowlingshoeguy Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:39 am

It's always fun to see those old photos with HOFers that are not major league teams. There seems to be 2 different photo of the same picture. That is really neat the names were added.

Great stuuf, I would not have been able to pick Joe out with out help. I thought the guy I top row third from left was the important guy when I first looked.

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Post by Bosox Blair Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:59 am

terjung wrote:nice, Blair!

Thanks! Love that E107 too - great card!!!

Here's my other 2 cards of the Iron Man...

C46:

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And a Sovereign-backed T206:

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Post by bcbgcbrcb Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:59 pm

Is the first KC photo provided the same one as the second KC photo with a frame added? If I recall correctly, the item from SCP was not an original Type I photo but something that was created in the early 1900's, possibly closer to 1920.

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Post by inthecards Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:18 pm

Hi, the first photo is the original (19" x 15") that came from George Darby's great niece. Darby took a photo of the original and annotated it for Dud Branom (the one that sold in SCP auction).


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Post by bcbgcbrcb Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:49 pm

Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense then.

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Post by Farm_kid Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:00 am

Awesome collectible. As a KC fan, that is very cool!

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