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Post by fisherboy7 on Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:03 am

Any ideas about this card? Is it a E100?



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Re: E100 white background?

Post by sabrjay on Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:48 am

First instinct says it is not an e100, but not sure what it is either. Almost looks like it was cut from something.

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I'm far from an expert, but

Post by nolemmings on Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:42 am

I don't think its an e100. I guess the type 2s are blank backed---who knows what back this one may have had before it was glued---but the cropping of the photo seems way too big, and of course the white background is not known, is it? Would this have been a borderless card but for the trim?
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Re: E100 white background?

Post by Z-NUT on Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:42 pm

The font of the lettering certainly appears to be consisitant with an E100. I'm not sure this is a "white background", but perhaps it's some form of printer's scrap or cut from an ad piece? Certainly a neat find either way.

Ben, you may want to direct Mark MaCrae to this thread. He may have a better idea as to what this is.

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Re: E100 white background?

Post by dstudeba on Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:12 pm

Very neat Ben, it is not a Type II since the font and cropping corresponds to a trimmed Type I. Do you have the dimensions? Also it looks to me like a blank back instead of a skinned back. I go with proof/ad piece.


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Re: E100 white background?

Post by fisherboy7 on Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:32 pm

Hey Dan apparently it measures 2 1/2 x 1 1/4, check out the link in the text of my first post. I agree with the printer scrap explanation.

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Re: E100 white background?

Post by dstudeba on Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:57 pm

According to Old Cardboard the e100s are 1-1/2 x 2-3/4 so it seems these are about the same size.

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e100 like card

Post by ullmandds on Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:19 pm

that's very cool...and unusual. I'd guess e100 scrap too!
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Re: E100 white background?

Post by TheRiddler on Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:31 pm

I dunno.
There appears to be no attempt at a border in the "white background".
Although the card's image similarities are indisputable, it does not appear to be from the same set to me (because of the line directly extending from hither to yon.)
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Re: E100 white background?

Post by terjung on Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:02 am

Gotta give it to the Riddler on that one. I first thought it was a simply a trimmed error card (missing one color). After considering the border more and looking at his left hand, you should see at least a hint of the border either at that location or below it where the card appears a bid wider. The font, its size and placement, as well as the image are identical. Quite an interesting card.
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Re: E100 white background?

Post by TheRiddler on Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:26 am

Agreed. Quite an interesting card.
But even more importently, Brian: agreed - give the Riddler some credit!

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Re: E100 white background?

Post by fisherboy7 on Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:25 am

Some strong prices realized here. $600+ for this example and another that was listed a few days later. Neat discovery, I wonder if it will lead to additional knowledge of the E100 set (I guess it kind of has already).

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Re: E100 white background?

Post by ItsOnlyGil on Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:28 pm

It has drawn e100 money here.
Wish I knew why.
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Re: E100 white background?

Post by dstudeba on Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:08 pm

Though I did not talk to Mark Macrae about this card I have never heard of a reference to printer's scraps of e100s. I would guess the bidders wanted an example for their collection. The winning bidder and the underbidder were the same on both cards. One of them has an extensive collection and likes different cards, the other collects early PCL including Bishops.

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Re: E100 white background?

Post by Bicem on Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:57 pm

you and Leon?
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Re: E100 white background?

Post by dstudeba on Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:57 pm

Bicem wrote:you and Leon?

Those two collectors fit the profile.

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Re: E100 white background?

Post by pro9 on Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:55 am

I know Dan has an extensive collection, but Leon collects early PCL??

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Re: E100 white background?

Post by dstudeba on Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:55 pm

That was news to me as well.

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Re: E100 white background?

Post by slidekellyslide on Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:39 pm

Leon has lots of early PCL cards. I think he probably picked these up in the hopes of them turning out to be a new type.
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Re: E100 white background?

Post by dstudeba on Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:56 pm

Sorry for my poor attempt at humor, he has many very nice PCL cards.

It is possible he thought these were a new type, but all the data in my mind always pointed to printers scraps. I think the auction results also show that. If they were a new type they would have gone for well more than $600, and they would have been in a major auction house.

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Post by slidekellyslide on Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:23 pm

I think Leon has now determined them to be printer's scrap now that he has them in hand. They are nifty little "cards"...and quite intriguing that something like that shows up this late in the game.
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Re: E100 white background?

Post by sabrjay on Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:03 pm

Given the the number of hardcore PCL collectors out there, I doubt that these slipped past any of them. If they truly were a new type, you have seen prices go through the roof.

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