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Post by fisherboy7 Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:39 pm

Finally scanned my E270 Red Border Tinker Evers Chance trio. Anyone have some others to show?

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Post by scott elkins Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:00 pm

Ben, I forgot how nice that trio looks side by side by side!

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Post by ItsOnlyGil Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:36 pm

Very nice way to do that, Ben !
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Post by sabrjay Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:47 pm

I still have 3, Speaker, Conroy and one other. I don't get how SGC grades these cards. My Speaker is a 60. I've seen several other 60s and none look as nice as mine. All of them being completely offcenter.

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Post by scott elkins Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:25 am

Other than being O/C, Ben's Evers is very crisp with NO chipping. Plus, I guess SGC took into account that the cards are usually O/C. That Speaker is the best centered example I have seen however!

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Post by sabrjay Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:18 am

SGC has never taken into account "normal" for a card, so why on this set? It would be inconsistant on
their part if they did this for e270s. The old school, harsh on grading, thought was that anything o/c so bad it's a missing a boarder cannot grade any higher than VG no matter no how sharp the corners are.

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Post by hanksta Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:33 pm

I should be getting my red border Ferris (Minneapolis) pretty soon from Fritsch Cards...I usually don't try to go that route but it was the only place I could find one. It's listed EM...I hope it's close. Question

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Post by scott elkins Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:17 pm

Glad you were able to find one Sean!

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Post by fisherboy7 Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:26 pm

Sean - If you can, please post a scan of your new one when it arrives righton

I forgot to mention that it's thanks to Scott that I have my trio. He sold them to me a few years ago during a very tough time for me as a collector (most know the story so I won't rehash it). I can honestly say that getting these red borders from Scott helped get me back into the hobby at a time when I thought I would never collect again.
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Post by sabrjay Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:47 pm

Sean, given that it's a Fritsch EM, I wouldn't expect anything past a VG/Ex

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Post by rhettyeakley Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:02 am

The main problem with the centering of these cards is that while most cards have one variable in the centering of the card, the Red Borders have two. First the image itself has to be centered (even E254 Colgan's are notoriously o/c) and then the red borders that were applied later also have to be centered. If I can figure out how to post images I will post some of mine when I get a chance. The Jones posted is about as nicely centered as you are ever going to find with this issue.
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Post by sabrjay Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:37 am

That Jones is best centered red I've ever seen. As you pointed out, this is an odd issue that has two dentering issues and while my SPeaker has a full red border, which isn't common, the picture is o/c.

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Post by cccc Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:05 am

cool "cards"...i enjoy the o/c crescent look of the red borders better. just personal preference as i think it looks cooler than the red going all the way around evenly...
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Post by sabrjay Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:15 am

Rhett, you still working on the set? If so, how far into it are you?


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Post by scott elkins Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:06 pm

Rhett, that Jones is the best centered example I have ever seen. BTW - where is your brother at these days? question

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Post by rhettyeakley Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:50 am

Jay, I don't know if I am really working on the set, but I buy as many as I see. Right now I am just under 30 different Red Borders (1 uncatalogued). Same goes on the E270 TinTops, while I pick up as many as I can I am at around 20-25 different (a couple uncatalgued) in that set.

Scott, my brother is still around doing his thing. He has been doing a lot more private sales than ebay lately so that may be why he doesn't seem to be out there as much.
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Post by sabrjay Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:04 am

I have a Conroy and Becker I am looking to move. I can send you a scan if you are interested.

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Post by rhettyeakley Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:35 am

Jay, I would be happy to take a look at them. Email to rhettyeakley@netzero.com

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Post by hanksta Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:06 am

It's been a while, but this is my first pick up in a month...coming from Fritsch Cards, it was listed EM and it looks pretty good to me; no wrinkles or creases but it's OC and has some slight staining on the bottom back. I'm glad to finally have one and the red is nice.

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Post by scott elkins Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:41 am

Sean - I really like the "crescent moon" look of that Red Border myself - congrats on the pickup!

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Post by fisherboy7 Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:43 am

Nice card, Sean! No chipping on that sensitive red border.
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