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Post by sndwatkins on Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:50 pm




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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by pariah1107 on Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:47 pm

Don't know what information you are looking for, but if it's just a bio on Claude "Lefty" Williams here your are:

http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/0998b35f

As for the authenticity of the card, I'll leave that to Zeenut experts on the board. If real, a valuable card as Williams was part of the 1919 Black Sox scandal, and plenty of collectors interested in that subject.
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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sndwatkins on Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:26 pm

Thanks for the info. Hopefully the Zeenut experts will chime in. Also not sure if I should get it graded and if I do SGC, PSA, BVG? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by ullmandds on Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:27 pm

cool pickup...what else was in the box?
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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sndwatkins on Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:54 pm

Rogers Hornsby and Frank Frisch Strip Card
1947 Bond Bread Lou Boudreau with rounded corners not square.
2 T222 Burns and Fletcher
Playing cards with several different names that I can't think of off the top of my head
Another card with just a head no name or team. Not sure if it was cut off or if they came that way. I have very little knowledge about cards pre-1960. Just starting to learn. Any idea what the going rate for the Claude Williams card would be? I will scan and post some of them.


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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sndwatkins on Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:36 am

Here are some images of the group.








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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sndwatkins on Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:39 am

More Images.









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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by Z-NUT on Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:24 am

Nice haul! Congrats!

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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sndwatkins on Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:16 am

Thanks Z-NUT. The problem I am having is getting focused on what to accomplish as a collector. Never thought I would come across the cards I did. Not a goal of mine. The problem now is do I keep these or do I resell and go after the goal of getting all the Willie Mays from rookie on up along with Johnny Bench rookie on up. I have the Bench collection but want to get all high graded cards for Mays and Bench.
I'm sure I'm not the only one to struggle with keeping focused. Some pretty good sets you are working on. Anyone else out there struggle with keeping focused on your goals?

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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by r337man on Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:16 pm

That is one treasure box! Covering a few different eras, Congrats!
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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by pariah1107 on Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:42 pm

Nice pick-ups. Since you are soliciting opinions: the w512's (Hornsby & Frisch) are in authentic grade, quite frankly not worth the submission to a TPG. If someone offers you $25-$30 for both, I'd take it. IMO ditto with the Flagstead and Lopez.

I would not expect more than an "Authentic" grade for any of the cards, but the Fatimas and Lefty Williams are the prizes. Keep them, sell the others to pay for your submissions to SGC. Once graded, and if you still want to pursue cards more in your wheelhouse, I'd contact Lee at Sterling Sports Auction to sell. Hope this is helpful, good luck sir.
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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sabrjay on Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:44 pm

Great cards!!! Love those Fatima's and Zeenuts. Too bad there weren't more of those cards in the group.

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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by r337man on Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:58 pm

I think the Lopez is from a cut up 4 in 1 Exhibit card.
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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sndwatkins on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:56 pm

Thanks everyone for the input on the cards. I found out that the Claude Williams card is not the same size as the other 1915 Zeenut cards (2in x 3 3/4 in). Mine is 1 3/4 x 2 1/2 in. Any idea how it could be so much shorter than the other Zeenut card for 1915? Do I have a reproduction or a fake? Any input on this would be much appreciated.

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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sabrjay on Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:00 am

Not sure what to tell you, but after looking at scans of copies of this card, the image doesn't look right. The only way to know for certain if this card is legit is for someone knowledgeable about the set could see the card. Right now though I'm leaning towards reproduction given the size and image quality

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Re: Images for 1915 Zeenut (1915) Williams (Claude) #136

Post by sndwatkins on Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:09 am

I've tried searching the Internet every place imaginable and cannot find any info. on Claude Lefty Williams or any Zeenut cards being a smaller size for 1915. The height difference is over an inch which is substantial. I will continue to search for the truth. Thanks.

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