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W517 Mini?

Post by r337man on Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:26 pm

Is this an actual W517 Mini or cut from a 4 in 1 exhibit card?

I always used to go by seeing a dash line to cut on for it to be a legit W517 mini.

The borders here almost make it look like the bottom right corner of a 4 in 1.

I think someone once said that you could also tell the difference by measuring the actual size of the picture itself, the W517 mini's being a tad larger in size then the 4 in 1 panels.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PSA-AUTHENTIC-1931-W517-MINI-Strip-Card-Lefty-O-Doul-Dodgers-NY-Giants-/310888410783?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item486264ae9f
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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by pariah1107 on Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:09 pm

I've always used the measurement: 1 11/16" wide X 2 19/32" tall for '31 minis. Got one somewhere, I think it's a Goslin. It's in my strip card notebook. I was really OCD about measuring strip card variations for a while.
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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by r337man on Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:41 pm

oh neat! ok so the 4 in 1 panels should fall short of that then?

and that measurement is just the picture not including the border correct?
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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by pariah1107 on Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:39 pm

Yes, just the picture.

The 4-in-1 panels are 3 3/8" wide X 5 3/8" tall, but have a space between the images. Yes, the 4-in-1's are slightly smaller.

With that said, the above mini seems "off" to me. I'm leaning towards mislabeled, but without the card in hand who can say for sure?
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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by r337man on Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:10 pm

What are the measurements of 1 of the single pictures inside a 4 in 1

The full 4 in 1 doesn't really matter correct?
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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by pariah1107 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:03 pm

Not sure Dan, but would like to know the dimensions. I don't have a 4-in-1 panel to measure. It seems, two minis without the borders are equal to the same width as a panel 3 3/8", but not as tall 5 3/16" (for mini), v. 5 3/8" (for panel). So are minis wider, but nearly the same height as a panel? I don't know.

Perhaps someone on the board with a 4-in-1 and a pair of calipers can assist.
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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by nolemmings on Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:59 pm

It's not a 4-in-1 Exhibit--the name and team designation are completely different than all of the 4-in1s I have ever seen, which have a different style of block printing located bottom center on the subject.

EDITED TO ADD LINK:  It's a W517 mini.  Check these out for comparison Old Cardboard set references


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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by smtjoy on Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:06 am

There are a couple special issues of exhibits that do match.  I do not know the measurements on these.  This one is miscut, I have seen this same card with a border on the O'Doul but they always have at least one wide border and on Odoul it would always be the right border- Edit found a second card from Adams page-

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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by nolemmings on Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:17 am

Thanks Scott--good to know.
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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by smtjoy on Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:10 pm

Anytime Todd.

Because of the wide right border on the graded one (matching the exhibits above) and that it is missing any kind of dotted line like the other Minis I have seen, I am leaning towards it being a cut exhibit
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Re: W517 Mini?

Post by r337man on Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:59 pm

Yea I think it is a 4 in1 panel myself. The dotted line gives away the mini and I think you are right that the mini is equal to the panel one way but not the other, can't remember which is equal, length or width. I am getting old!
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