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Post by dontknowmuch Sun May 26, 2013 12:56 am

Hello, I acquired this today at a estate sale and don't know much about it. It measures 4 x 2 1/2 in. I would like to sell the card or find any info i can about it. Thanks for taking the time too help in advance. I have pics but i cannot upload because it is saying that i cannot upload from external links for 7 days? Post to the reply and i will give my email address for pics, Or if there is another way that i am missing.

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Post by jbonie Sun May 26, 2013 1:10 am

It sounds ilke a very interesting piece. Would love to see a scan. Here's the link for instructions on how to post a scan:

https://vbbc.forumotion.com/t89-how-to-post-scans-on-full-count
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Post by dontknowmuch Sun May 26, 2013 1:18 am

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Post by dontknowmuch Sun May 26, 2013 1:20 am

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Post by dontknowmuch Sun May 26, 2013 1:22 am

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Post by dontknowmuch Sun May 26, 2013 1:23 am

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Post by jbonie Sun May 26, 2013 1:52 am

Oh, I know those! That card is obviously a joke card about Ewing's propensity to get injured as he was beginning to age. As far as I can tell, the card seems to be authentic. It could be in Very Good condition, perhaps, which means it is probably one of the better examples out there. I don't know how much it is worth, but it is probably north of $1000, somewhere in the $2000 range, perhaps.

Most important thing is to be very careful with the condition of the card and any damage to the card will greatly affect its value. You should consider consigning the card to an auction house in order to maximize its value. The auctioneer will have the card authenticated and graded by SGC. Here are a couple of good auction houses that are reputable and get strong prices:

http://www.sterlingsportsauctions.com/
http://goodwinandco.com/

Sterling is run by Lee Behrens, a member of this board. Bill Goodwin is also a very good guy and you can't go wrong with either of them.

Cheers and Good Luck!
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Post by jbonie Sun May 26, 2013 2:41 am

P.S. It may not be worth as much as I wrote before, the card is rather obscure. Can just depend on what someone is willing to pay for it that day. Maybe someone else here knows better...
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Post by nolemmings Sun May 26, 2013 4:03 am

I am skeptical. Although I haven't regularly chased 19th century stuff for many years and am far far from an expert, I find it odd that having never seen this image all that time I now have seen it three times this month. First there was the Heritage auction ending May 2, which contained the following and included within the description "A portrait of this style was unknown to our staff"
1890's Buck Ewing Ohio CDV?  Lf?set=path%5B9%2F8%2F8%2F3%2F9883272%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct

Then there was this ebay auction ending May 17th with what it acknowledges is a reprint
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neat-Cabinet-Card-Of-A-Baseball-Player-From-Cincinnati-Ewing-/190839356765?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item2c6ee97d5d
1890's Buck Ewing Ohio CDV?  $T2eC16Z,!w0E9szNZs-qBRkWtj!(Gw~~60_57

and now this one. I'd have to see it in hand to pass judgment, but I find the timing of all this to be very strange.
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Post by nolemmings Sun May 26, 2013 4:23 am

Here is the Heritage link:
http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7075&lotNo=80004#98839883272

If you fully enlarge the image you will see a small line of soiling below his chin and on his collar, running downward right to left toward the armsling. This same soiling appears in the reprint and also seems to exist on the OPs specimen. Also, the Heritage description notes a small piece of paper adhered to Buck's right pant leg (actually his left--right as you're looking at it). Seems to be on the lower knee area to me. Also seems like this similar blemish or small whitish blotch is found on the reprint and the OP's example, although it's not as easy to see as the collar soiling. I'm having more and more trouble believing this is authentic.
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Post by ullmandds Sun May 26, 2013 12:56 pm

looks kinda fake to me...paper looks artifically aged...image is not super clear...
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Post by sabrjay Sun May 26, 2013 2:23 pm

from the scans my first thought was fake. The image is far too grainy. You just don't see photos from that era look grainy.
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Post by cccc Wed May 29, 2013 8:53 pm

imo first impression seeing it it's too "colorful" for something supposedly came from the 19th century...usually the period stuff is very drabby and sepia and/or b/w.
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