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Post by ullmandds on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:28 pm

Collecting cycles are funny! Maybe a yr ago I was focused on my e94 set...there was barely a wagner...or young to be seen...the pickin's were slim to non-existent!!!

Now I'm searching fleabay...and there are 2 wagners...and I see a beautiful yellow young in the next goodwin. I wish last yr when I was searching for e94 youngs and wagners...I was pursuing a m101-6 ruth instead! I could have saved a few pennies!!!!

Does that happen to you guys? As soon as you find an elusive card...they start popping up!


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Re: The murphy's law of collecting...or...M101-6 discussion!

Post by BigGuy219 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:32 pm

hijack

Pete, did you get a 'next Goodwin' preview?

/hijack
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Post by ullmandds on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:43 pm

look on the website?!

Huh? Looks like it disappeared?!
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Post by ullmandds on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:48 pm

maybe it was a camping mirage induced by too many gin and tonics?! But there was an m101-6 cobb as well!!!!!!!! There was another E94 w/back overprint.
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Post by jbonie on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:52 pm

That did happen with me and my Whitney with Dog. I had wanted a dog card for a while but never had an opportunity to nab a really good one. Then, all of a sudden, they started showing up - first in Lew Lipset, then REA... then Goodwin. After being outbid on the first two, I felt this was my last chance (and that I could never find one as nice as this one). That's what led to my splurge.

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Post by ullmandds on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:59 pm

How did the prices compare for the 3? Did you benefit not having a few other players in the game?
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Post by BigGuy219 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:10 am

Pete, are you going for the Cobb?
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:15 am

I doubt it...other than a scarce...cobb late in his career...the pose is commonly found on many other of his cards...and it's not like the set is possible for me?!?!

The ruth is special to me because it's his "rookie pose" and a few yrs ago I decided I wanted his rookie card when it was only expensive...but then it got stoopid!!!!! So this is the earliest ruth I will ever own...and am very happy about it!!!
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Post by BigGuy219 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:21 am

I don't know, Pete. It would make an excellent companion piece.

Imagine the Cobb next to the Ruth.

Bid, bid, bid!
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:44 am

you're like the devil sitting on my shoulder...it seems there are devils on both shoulders...where's the voice of reason?!?!?!
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Post by BigGuy219 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:50 am

Pete, there has to be a reason this Cobb is coming up for sale so soon after your purchase of the Ruth.

Clearly, it was meant to be.
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Post by jbonie on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:53 am

ullmandds wrote:How did the prices compare for the 3? Did you benefit not having a few other players in the game?

Well, the Lipset one was raw but would have graded a one. It had some real, major problems, with graffiti-like writing on the front. It sold for $800, I think. The one in REA was an SGC 40 with a pretty good image but a very bad diamond cut, even the image seemed skewed, I was the underbidder, it sold for $1500.

Mine went for $5750, so four times the price of the SGC 40. But the image was spectacular, and sometimes collectors will just pay huge premium for that. I had never seen an image that good on an n172 dog card. Times like that, bidding can just get crazy.

For example, when John (Wonka) came down with his n172 Delahanty. Another card with a spectacular image. It was only a PSA 6MK, but he paid double what I paid for my Delahanty SGC 84. Overpay? Not necessarily.

My point is, when it comes to spectacular looking OJ's of desirable players/poses, the price is going to get high. If you want the privilege of being an underbidder, put in a so-called "reasonable bid" based on VCP prices, etc. But if you want to actually own the card, you're going to have to do a little better. You might come out looking like a complete fool, BUT - you own the card. Very Happy
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Post by jbonie on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:59 am

BigGuy219 wrote:Pete, there has to be a reason this Cobb is coming up for sale so soon after your purchase of the Ruth.

Clearly, it was meant to be.

I'm not sure it was meant to be because Pete bought it since it's got Babe Ruth on it, not because he's a Mendelsohn set collector. Ty Cobb... ugh. Razz I don't like that guy, and I wouldn't collect his cards. Plus, why throw even more money into a set that was only the secondary importance for the purchase of the initial card? Unless I was really in love with the set, I would think it would be better to diversify.

Also, I think presenting the Cobb next to the Ruth kind of detracts from the Ruth. Just because there are so many Cobb cards out there. Even if he was a great player. But the Ruth stands best alone. nono
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:09 am

jamie...I AGREE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! 100%

CHRIS is an INSTIGATOR!!!!!
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Post by nolemmings on Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:15 am

I doubt it...other than a scarce...cobb late in his career...the pose is commonly found on many other of his cards...and it's not like the set is possible for me?!?!

Pete, the pose is not only uncommon but possibly unique, at least I don't recall seeing it before. Also Ty was hardly at the end of his career--he won three batting titles during the issuance of m101-6. But you're right, the set is next to impossible for anyone at this point.
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:24 am

Thanks todd... after I made that statement I looked at the scan... and it is slightly different from the pose i was thinking of I guess it is possibly unique, todd! And also right smack dab in the middle of his career... I stand corrected again!


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Post by ullmandds on Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:25 am

I was batting 333 in my statements. Still Hall of Fame numbers!!!!:-p
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:26 am

Weather man accuracy!
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Post by nolemmings on Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:19 am

It's a nice set Pete, and I believe every pose is an original, although several were copied many times thereafter (Schalk, Sisler and Speaker come to mind).

That Ruth is nice--you may want to free it from its tomb though. M101-6s are best enjoyed in hand.
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Post by cccc on Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:39 am

nolemmings wrote:It's a nice set Pete, and I believe every pose is an original, although several were copied many times thereafter (Schalk, Sisler and Speaker come to mind).

That Ruth is nice--you may want to free it from its tomb though. M101-6s are best enjoyed in hand.

probably need some tequila to steady your hands cracking a 16k card. i had some zima before cracking a n172 delahanty back in the day.
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Post by BigGuy219 on Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:41 am

cccc wrote:
nolemmings wrote:It's a nice set Pete, and I believe every pose is an original, although several were copied many times thereafter (Schalk, Sisler and Speaker come to mind).

That Ruth is nice--you may want to free it from its tomb though. M101-6s are best enjoyed in hand.

probably need some tequila to steady your hands cracking a 16k card. i had some zima before cracking a n172 delahanty back in the day.

Quoted for posterity before you edit out the Zima reference.
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Post by jbonie on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:05 am

I'm sure Pete has enough sense not to crack the card out of its case.
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Post by terjung on Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:21 am

FYI, that M101-6 Cobb was recently sold in REA lot #140 this year.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2012/140.html

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Post by the-illini on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:17 pm

Has that Cobb been auctioned or is it in an upcoming auction? It was for sale at the national, but they wanted 30k for it, which was ridiculous IMO.
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Post by ullmandds on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:21 pm

Yep Brian...I saw that...I believe I saw a preview for the upcoming Goodwin auction...which seems to have disappeared and the cobb is in it.

If you google m101-6...a link comes up in the search results to goodwin...but when you click on it...it takes you to the last auctions end.

I can't imagine the cobb would go for anywhere near the ruth? But what do I know...esp in a goodwin aucction!!!!!
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