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Post by Bosox Blair on Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:26 am

An interesting sideline to hockey collecting stems from the overlap of players who also starred in lacrosse...and fortuitously have Canadian issued lacrosse cards.

I started collecting lacrosse cards to get cool, scarce cards of certain hockey Hall-of-Famers. But I got so into the lacrosse sets that I couldn't just stop there.

As a result, I have built the #2 PSA Registry set of C60 Lacrosse cards, and a small number of C59 and C61 as well.

It is generally accepted that the C60 (set of 98) was the first of these sets issued by Imperial Tobacco. This was followed by the C59 issue (set of 100) and then the black and white C61s.

The C59 set has the same subjects as C60 for cards #1-98, but additionally has two more Vancouver cards as #99 (Dude Sumner) and #100 (Newsy Lalonde). Close observation will show that the background color on some C59 cards are different from their C60 counterparts. Other than that, the best way to tell the two issues apart is by looking at the reverse. The C60s have the more "simple" reverse, while the C59s show a more ornate design on reverse.

Another interesting thing I have found within both C59 and C60 is some interesting color variations from the printing process (I imagine missing color pass(es)).

Here is a C60 of Tobin followed by a C59 of Tobin:







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Post by Bosox Blair on Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:28 am

Here is a C61 of Brennan:

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Post by Bosox Blair on Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:31 am

Here are scans to show the difference between the reverse of C60 (simpler) followed by C59 (more ornate):



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Post by Bosox Blair on Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:36 am

These scans show the 2 "extra" cards of C59 - Sumner and Lalonde. I also included a scan of my lemon Lalonde color variation within C59:





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Post by Bosox Blair on Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:51 pm

In addition to the hockey Hall-of-Famers found in the C60 Lacrosse set (Newsy Lalonde, Tommy Gorman, Mickey Ions, Paddy Moran, Joe Malone, Bouse Hutton, Joe Cattarinich), there is also a card of boxing HOFer - and former heavyweight champion - Tommy Burns:



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Re: Lacrosse Anyone?

Post by fisherboy7 on Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:03 am

I own a few C61's. The E107's of lacrosse cards! (not really).





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Post by Z-NUT on Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:53 am

What are the prices like for C59, C60, C61's of hockey players compared to their C55, C56, C57's?

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Post by Bosox Blair on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:03 am

Z-NUT wrote:What are the prices like for C59, C60, C61's of hockey players compared to their C55, C56, C57's?

Hi Adam,

Prices are generally significantly cheaper for the lacrosse cards, even though they are considerably rarer. A few years ago in 2008-2009, there were some very high prices paid for C60 lacrosse cards. It seemed like some "whales" were after these and a lot of very high bids were made on eBay. Since then the prices have come down a fair bit on auctions (lucky for me as I built my set).

One example - Newsy Lalonde...in late 2008 his C56 hockey rookie sold for about $950 in PSA 4. In 2009 his C60 lacorsse card in SGC 50 sold for $160 (though most people ask a lot more for this card if they have it...this does seem to have been a steal of a deal).

Another example - "Phantom" Joe Malone...his C55 hockey rookie sells for an average of about $500 in PSA 4. His C60 lacrosse card sells for an average of $140 in PSA 4.
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Post by Bosox Blair on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:27 am

[quote="fisherboy7"]I own a few C61's. The E107's of lacrosse cards! (not really).


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Hi Ben,

Nice cards! I noticed that Justcollect has some C61s in PSA holders on eBay right now...very high starting bids. We'll see if they get bidders (not me). These guys got some of the highest prices on C60s back in 2008-2009.
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Post by Bosox Blair on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:16 am

I just posted a few graded C60 Lacrosse cards for sale in the BST section, if anyone is interested - thanks!
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Post by hanksta on Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:54 pm

Just saw this. I know that KO was buying old lacrosse and football (soccer) and cricket cards up about 4 - 5 years ago...it seemed that every time nice examples would come up Merkle would be bidding and winning.

I wound up winning a few really nice ones and had them graded by SGC, still not sure how the Taddy's graded a 60 but they looked like 80+ to me.









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Imperial Tobacco lacrosse Confusion

Post by Auggiedoggy on Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:21 am

I'm new to this forum. I'm just getting back into collecting again after about 5 years of inactivity (collecting) .

Its amazing how many people get it wrong with regards to when the C60, C59 and C61 sets were issued. All one has to do is look at the PSA graded cards to see the confusion. Yes, even PSA gets it wrong. I have some C59 cards graded by PSA but the label says "1910 C60". "1910 C59" is also a common sight amongst PSA graded cards. Once in a while they do get it right. They rarely mess up the C60 and C61 sets.

I'm 19 cards shy of completing the C60 set, 22 cards shy of completing the C59 set and I have a complete C61 set. I have a several PSA graded cards but I hope to eventually get them all graded. Not a cheap endeavour from what I can see.

By the way, PSA will correct any mislabelled cards.

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Post by Auggiedoggy on Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:19 am

UPDATE:

Sold off my near set (had 80 of 100) of C59. A few graded C59s are still for sale. I have 1 card to go to complete my C60. I have a completed C61 set. Just looking to improve on its overall condition. A half dozen are graded. The rest are raw. All graded cards are PSA 6.


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