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Post by fisherboy7 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:37 pm

I had been watching THIS AUCTION for more than 2 months, thinking since Paragon is a relatively unknown auction site, it might fly under the radar. Boy was I wrong. What did you think about the final price on this card? Clearly an absolute gem, but seeing as it's a SGC 10 (with nice eye appeal) I was thinking it would go for 30-50% of what it ended up selling for.

Oh well Mad I can only dream to someday own a common from the 1912 BG set. Someday.


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Re: 1912 Boston Garter Mathewson SGC 10 nets $60K+

Post by cccc on Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:53 pm

they had some great cards for a 1st time auction. obviously the new-ness didn't hurt the value here. BG or e107 matty?
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Post by Square_Frame_Ramly on Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:55 am

The "No buyers premium" will be a big hit. Will they have only a few auctions a year?

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Post by terjung on Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:14 am

Really rare card from a highly sought after set made that one fly. I had no idea how much that card would bring, but was a little surprised to see how high the reserve was ($50k). I guess that was a pretty good reflection of the value. Paragon put on a pretty nice auction and got significant attention.

The pay for advertising idea is interesting. I wonder if there is a minimum level of advertising that the consignors are required to do. Put it this way... if there are some nice items in the auction and the auction will get some good traffic from that (especially as it becomes more recognized), what is to stop someone from consigning and passing on advertising in their catalog in order to realize the maximum profit (unless there is a minimum set). I could see this quickly turning into a sellers fee, which is essentially what a minimum advertisement space would end up being. Gross exaggeration to prove a point... if REA did the same thing, would someone consigning to REA need to advertise in the catalog if the piece was rare enough not to get lost in the auction? REA gets enough traffic that the lots will attract attention on their own. If Paragon begins to really thrive, I'd think their fee system would have to change.

Oh, and Quan... if you are offering, I'll choose the E107 Matty.
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Post by fisherboy7 on Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:59 am

cccc wrote:BG or e107 matty?

I'm about as big a 1912 BG fan as there is, and even then, I'd have a hard time choosing the BG Matty over a E107 Matty. Good question though.

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Post by hanksta on Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:15 pm

I would pick the BG, I love the beating that is going down outside while Matty sits inside sipping his afternoon tea.
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Post by ullmandds on Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:18 pm

no contest for me...the BG over the e107 any day...the beautiful color imagery trumps bland b/w image all day long 4 me!

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Post by sabrjay on Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:09 pm

I'm with Pete. Color tops B&W almost every time.

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Post by jbonie on Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:56 am

Oh the E107 is a much more classic pose, and a portrait, too. I'll take that one :-)
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Post by cccc on Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:31 am

maybe i subscribe to the "more card for the money" theory...but if it's a tie between 2 cards then the bigger one always win. i chooose BG even tho i like the 107 ALOT (capitalized for emphasis).

so the score is 4-3 BG over the e107 right now.
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Post by Bicem on Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:14 am

e107, BG's are kinda gay looking. elephant
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Post by jbonie on Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:24 am

Hey Jeff, what's wrong with looking gay? scratch

You need "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy", haha.
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Post by ullmandds on Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:23 pm

part of the allure of the BG's to me...is the uniqueness of the "gay" poses! C'mon...it's hilarious seeing grown men...ballplayers...wearing garters to hold their socks up depicted as pseudo-cartoons!!!!!!

And I never noticed the background...it DOES kinda look like a beatdown...just a funny angle!!!
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Post by hanksta on Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:18 pm

I would like to think the guy with the bat is saying, "and this is for wearing my Boston Garters!"
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Post by cccc on Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:29 pm

hmmm good idea sean we need a prewar baseball-related caption contest with some prizes for the winner.
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Post by fisherboy7 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:39 pm

cccc wrote:hmmm good idea sean we need a prewar baseball-related caption contest with some prizes for the winner.

Great thread idea!

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Post by jbonie on Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:06 pm

I agree!
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Post by wonkaticket on Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:49 am

I’ll try some here we go…



“Hey Larry see if this fixes your lazy eye…how’s that feel now?”

“Sure you can have till next week to pay the money you owe me…here’s a little reminder just in case you forget again!”

“For the last time Tom stop peeking in the window while Mr. Mathewson is changing you’ve been told now twice!”

“Carl!” “Yes coach?” “For the last time leave the bat at the plate when you run the bases after you get a hit.”

“You want Velvet Grip ohhh, I got your Velvet Grip right here jackass!”

“Stew I slept with your sister last night are you ok with that? What are you doing with that bat Stew….Stew..whoa Stew calm down”

“Hey Bill dude hit me in the head really hard will get that guy over there to photograph it, then will sell these photos of us doing these crazy dangerous things for money! Will call it DonkeyAss or something like that” “I don’t know Steve-O if that is something that people would really be into maybe like in a 100 years or something?”

“Did you get that bug on my hat?” “Yep got em”

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Post by JohnnyHarmonica on Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:58 pm

Bicem wrote:e107, BG's are kinda gay looking. elephant

LOL !!
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Post by Bicem on Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:52 pm

Honestly, the Boston Garter is a great card, I really just wanted to use the dancing pink elephant emoticon at least once in my life.
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Post by bowlingshoeguy on Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:48 pm

"Matty's mine, now quit looking in the window"
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Post by JohnnyHarmonica on Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:48 pm

Matty says- " If you think the garter looks good, wait till you see the panties ! "
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Post by Pup6913 on Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:31 am

Since I started a thread on 54 about this a few weeks ago I guess I will play here since no one over there played along.

From 54 Thread: I was looking at the Paragon Auction site and was enamored by the BG Matty card. It struck me as funny and astounding at the same time. I think I found out why Matty won so many games. He was a "Gangsta." So I will start it off:

McGraw--"You go pose for your picture Christi and I will take care of our competition Mr. Plank for you"
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Post by terjung on Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:33 am

"Do I make you horny, baby? ...Do I? ...Do I make you randy?"
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Post by sabrjay on Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:03 am

"I'm ready to move to San Francisco right now."

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