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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by wrongarm300 on Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:38 pm

Right. This apparently was the coolest/best shoebox full of cards in history!

Grrrr, scammers@!%

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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by wrongarm300 on Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:55 am

I am probably going to an auction tomorrow that lists the following cards available (I would appreciate any help and what I should bid on them). Feel free to email me @yahoo.com if you'd rather do it that way!


8) Babe Ruth 1933
All–American AUTOGRAPH Graded Authentic card
($1500+Value)

9) Mickey Mantle 1958 Topps #150 BRGS
Graded NM–MT 8 ($1000
Value)

10) Ty Cobb 1910 T206 Cycle Cigarettes
BRGS Graded EX 5
($1000+ Value)

11) Babe Ruth 1933 Goudey #53 BRGS
Graded EX 5 ($2000+
Value)

12) Nolan Ryan Rookie Card 1968 Topps
#177 BRGS Graded MINT
9 ($750+ Value)

13) Wilt Chamberlain Rookie Card 1961
Fleer #8 BRGS Graded
NM–MT 8

14) Bobby Orr Rookie Card 1966–67 Topps
O–Pee–Chee #35 BRGS
Graded NM–MT+ 8.5

15) John Ward 1887–1890 Old Judge N172
Graded Authentic
($1000+ Value)

16) Mickey Mantle 1952 Berk Ross
Baseball Card ($500+ Value)


17) Babe Ruth 1933 Chicago Herald
Baseball Card ($500 Value)


18) Mickey Mantle 1959 Topps #10 BRGS
Graded NM–MT 8 ($1000+
Value)

19) Willie Mays 1952 Bowman #218
Baseball Card ($1000+
Value)

20) Ted Williams 1954 Topps #250 AGS
Graded NM 7 ($500
Value)

21) Babe Ruth 1921 American Caramel
E121 Baseball Card
($Thousands Value)

22) Michael Jordan Rookie Card 1986
Fleer #57 Baseball Card
($500+ Value)

23) Chicago Cubs 1940’s 4 in 1 Exhibit
Baseball Card

24) Chicago White Sox 1940’s 4 in 1
Exhibit Baseball Card

25) Michael Jordan 1985 Star #101
Rookie card ($1000+ Value)


26) Ernie Banks signed Chicago Cubs
Baseball Hat

27) Mickey Mantle autographed
Baseball’s Greatest Heroes
Post Card

28) Mickey Mantle 1969 A Day to
Remember Pin–Backed Button

29) Pete Rose signed uncut sheet of 6
Charlie Hustle BB
Cards

30) Clayton Moore–The Lone Ranger
signed The Lone Ranger
Comic Book

31) Little Niggers circa 1890 Cigar Box
label

32) 1910 Plow Boy Tobacco Premium
Yakima Indian

33) Tinker to Evers to Chance A Poem
(Very Rare)

34) Nellie Fox signed color photo

35) Alfonso Soriano signed 8xl0 Glossy
Color Photo

36) Ryne Sandberg signed 8x10 Glossy
Color Photo

37) Mark Grace signed 8xl0 Glossy Color
Photo

38) Minnie Minoso signed Color Photo

39) Ryne Sandberg signed Beckett
Magazine

40) Mark Grace signed Beckett Magazine

41) Frank Thomas signed The Sporting
News Magazine

42) 9 autographs on 1982 Chicago Cubs
Program

43) Andre Dawson signed 1989 Cubs
Scorecard

44) Gayle Sayers signed Chicago Bears
License Plate

45) Mark Prior signed Cubs Jersey

46) Ted Williams Signed Grand Champions
Card

47) 1954 Topps #94 Ernie Banks Graded
Authentic ($400+
value)

48) Mickey Mantle 1962 Topps #200 BRGS
Graded NM 7 ($600+
Value)

49) Michael Jordan 1986 Fleer #57
Rookie Card Graded NRMT–MT
9.5 ($800+ Value)

50) John Unitas 1957 Topps #138 Rookie
Card BRGS Graded
NM–MT 8

51) Bobby Hull 1958 Topps #66 Rookie
Card BRGS Graded NM–MT
8

52) Michael Jordan 1985 Star Miller
Lite #3 Basketball Card

53) Michael Jordan 1986 Star #7
Basketball Card

54) Michael Jordan 1986 Fleer Rookie
Card Autographed ($500+
Value)

55) Bing Crosby signed Dixie Sheet
Music

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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by fisherboy7 on Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:03 am

Personally I would never bid on any card in a "BRGS" graded slab. BRGS is not a well known/recognized grading company, so chances are the cards in those holders are either trimmed/altered or not authentic. There are only a handful of legit grading companies out there that you can trust (SGC, PSA, Beckett, and GAI - kinda).

If there's any way we can see scans/pics of the cards I'm sure we could give you a more informed response. Either way, proceed with caution.

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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by wrongarm300 on Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:05 am

Unfortunately this auction did not come with any photos. I was just "googling" BRGS and not finding anything, which automatically worries me. I just emailed the auctioneer for more info. With the way things are going I may just skip this one. UGH!R@#%@

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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by fisherboy7 on Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:09 am

I would skip it too. My advice to you would be to buy a few low grade t206's or something along those lines. Won't cost you more than $40-50 bucks or so. Take time to become more familiar with the look and feel of cards from that era. The more you handle the cards, combined with the knowledge you attain here over time, the more likely you'll be able to spot a fake in the future. Then, once you become more comfortable with how 100 year old cards should look like, you'll be more confident and prepared to spend big bucks on the vintage cards that you really want.

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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by terjung on Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:12 am

Great advice from Ben there. In general, for prewar and postwar vintage, you are safest with SGC or PSA graded cards.
Until you know what you are doing, stay away from anything that is not in an SGC or PSA slab. Beckett's vintage arm (BVG) also carries some credibility, but anything other than that I wouldn't touch.

It's like in poker, if you are looking around the table and you can't figure out who the sucker is... it's you. That is not a slam on noobies, but rather an illustration to let you know that there is a 99.99% chance that any perceived great deal or find in a shoebox in the attic that used to belong to my grandpa... or some such story is complete garbage. Stick with the advice you've been given here. It is solid.

Buy cheap versions of graded cards in PSA or SGC holders and learn about them before trying to venture into anything raw. You'll me money ahead and chances are, you'll be warning others to do the same thing in a year or so.

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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by wrongarm300 on Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:16 am

I absolutely am soaking in all of the information you guys have given me and I can't thank you enough!

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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by wrongarm300 on Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:34 am

Should I start another post for all of my inquires?

http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/showitem.cgi?catid=13184&itemid=57

Also my friend did go to that auction today and he 'overheard' a guy telling another person that all of the BRGS graded cards looked VERY fake. Of that entire list only 1 card went for over $100.

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Re: 1933 Delong Lou Gehrig

Post by crazylocomerk on Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:51 pm

wrongarm300 wrote:Should I start another post for all of my inquires?

http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/showitem.cgi?catid=13184&itemid=57

Also my friend did go to that auction today and he 'overheard' a guy telling another person that all of the BRGS graded cards looked VERY fake. Of that entire list only 1 card went for over $100.

I would stay away from auctionzip too. Those all look fake to me. The scan/pic looks horrible, and usually when you see something that bad, there's a very good indicator that the seller is trying to hide something. Run for the hills on that lot.

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