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What are these cards?

Post by ItsOnlyGil on Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:13 pm



The Card size is 2 " x 3 1/8" inches
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Re: What are these cards?

Post by ItsOnlyGil on Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:24 am

Here are the backs:



And here is the story, so far -

Help identify 1880's Baseball Card? Anyone...

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Hi, I am a vintage collector of the 50's & 60's. I did find ( in my collection ) these two old cards ( minor league I'm guessing ). Anyone have any info on
these 2 old relic's? Thanks, DInoPro
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Re: What are these cards?

Post by fisherboy7 on Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:52 pm

They are fake Kalamazoo Bats cabinets.

Kalamazoo Bats cabinets measure 4 by 6 and come in two varieties: the first with a black mount and a gold embossed "Smoke Kalamazoo Bats" advertising, and the second with a blank mount and no advertising. The pair above resembles the latter type, but to me these appear PHONY. The card stock looks cheap and the photo quality has nowhere near the clarity of an original. Don't get fooled by these.

Here is a scan of what an authentic, unmarked K-Bat cabinet should look like:


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Re: What are these cards?

Post by sabrjay on Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:45 pm

I was gonna say that the fence in the background looked a lot like the fence seen in my K Bats. Ben is probably correct. These are poor quality fakes that will only fool someone with too much money and not enough knowledge.

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Re: What are these cards?

Post by ItsOnlyGil on Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:21 am



George Wood from the A.G. Spalding collection.
Sure makes the other one look like a grainy print of this albumen photograph.
At 2x31/8" that would make it a carte de vista, if it was real.
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Re: What are these cards?

Post by ItsOnlyGil on Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:18 pm

Epilog ...

DInoPro admits that the cards are not actually albumen photographic prints, nor the product of any more recent actual photographic process. However he stated that he wonders how a copy can be made from a photograph.
I will offer no comment on that.
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Re: What are these cards?

Post by dstudeba on Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:41 pm

Ben is of course correct. They are painful fakes, but ones I have never seen before. The player with bat is George Wood.

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