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Post by JohnV on Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:30 am

Good evening. First time poster...
I'm seeking a 1916 Zinn Beck card. To my knowledge, this is the only year of issue. Seems like the same picture is on every type card, but with different backs. I'm wondering if the same manufacturer created all the variations. Any suggestions on where I might find one?
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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by sabrjay on Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:16 am

He is part of the m101-4 and m101-5 sets. They are estentially the same sets with a few differences players. There are a lot of different backs for the set and there are also blank backed cards. He also appears in 1919 Zeenut set.

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You missed this one on ebay last night--but it was no gimme

Post by nolemmings on Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:19 am

$228.50--and yes, the m101s were all the creation of Felix Mendelsohn, a Chicago publisher


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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by fisherboy7 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:45 am

Hey John, welcome to the forum.

If you aren't concerned with acquiring the M101-4/5 Zinn Beck card with a particular back, then it shouldn't be too difficult to track one down. Ebay is probably your best bet. On the other hand, the 1919 Zeenut that Jay mentioned would likely be more of a challenge to find. Just out of curiosity, what draws you to Beck - is he a relative of yours?

The scarcity of the M101 backs is all over the map. A couple of the backs are quite rare, while others are much easier to find and hence more affordable (blank back, Sporting News back). The Morehouse Baking card posted above is a pretty tough back, which is likely why it sold for $200+. While I could give you a rough idea of relative scarcity of all the backs, I'll leave it to someone who collects the set to map that out. But I can at least provide a list:

Blank Back
Altoona Tribune
Block and Kuhl
Burgess-Nash
Everybody's
Famous and Barr
Gimbels
Globe
Green-Joyce
Herpolsheimer
Holmes to Homes Bread
Indianapolis Brewing
Mall Theatre
Morehouse Baking
Standard Biscuit
Successful Farming
The Sporting News
Ware's
Weil

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by JohnV on Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:03 pm

As everyone probably knows, Zinn Beck became a bat manufacturer after his short playing career. The label on his bats indicates Greenville, SC. This caught my interest since I live in the Columbia area. He also managed a Columbia minor league team for a while. He and his family lived in Columbia for a few years. I've read that he may have manufactured some bats in Columbia during this period. So as I dig around, I thought I would try to find one of his cards. The back doesn't really matter. Nor am I particularly concerned about condition. Of course better is always best.

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by ItsOnlyGil on Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:05 pm

Welcome JohnV
Good luck on this hunt.
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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by scott elkins on Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:48 pm

JohnV - thanks for posting (feel free to post whenever you want) and welcome. Hope you find yourself a nice example soon, and be sure to post a scan of the card for us on the recent acquisitions thread.

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by fisherboy7 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:23 am

JohnV wrote:As everyone probably knows, Zinn Beck became a bat manufacturer after his short playing career.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't know that. Embarassed

We'll keep an eye out on the card for you. Good luck, and make sure to keep us updated if/when you manage to track one down.
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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by sabrjay on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:25 am

I didn't know that either. Lots of small bat makers back then, so it's not real surprising, especially for an enterprising ball player to do.

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by JohnV on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:51 am

I'll post a picture of a Zinn Beck bat label. I don't see a paper clip. Can someone tell me how to attach a photo.

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by fisherboy7 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:53 am

Here's a link to the scan posting tutorial in the Tech Support category:

http://vbbc.forumotion.com/tech-support-feedback-f11/how-to-post-scans-on-full-count-t89.htm
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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by scott elkins on Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:23 pm

Don't feel bad Ben - I didn't know about him being a bat manufacturer either! Cool I have a good excuse for you and me - we are too busy tracking down cards. Razz That is an interesting fact however and proves you learn something new every day! question

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by rhettyeakley on Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:20 am

Here's the 1919 Zeenut...

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by rhettyeakley on Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:22 am

Here is his M101-4 as well, the Morehouse pictures earlier is the M101-5...

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by JohnV on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:08 am

Here is a bat label...



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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by fisherboy7 on Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:55 pm

Hey John, any luck yet in finding yourself a Zinn Beck card?

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by JohnV on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:51 pm

I found a 1916 SGC 50. Also found a 1919 Zeenut which you guys would refer to as a "beater". Strange how a beater can still give you the warm and fuzzies. Still, I'll keep an eye on an upgrade opportunity.
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ZINN BECK

Post by papapezbuddy1 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:54 pm

I am also looking for Zinn Beck. I have a slabbed signature and Childs Bat but no cards. I am looking for pictures, cards, advertising, etc. I also collect Joseph G. Kren Bat Co. of Syracuse, NY. Unfortunately, he wasn't a player. Thank You papapezbuddy1

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Re: 1916 Zinn Beck

Post by JohnV on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:07 pm

I have a 1919 Zeenut card graded by SGC as Poor. Let me know if you are interested and I'll send a photo.

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