Ben Milch David Rubenstein Wheretheyaint.com WARNING

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Ben Milch David Rubenstein Wheretheyaint.com WARNING

Post by grays on Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:22 pm

I thought I would warn anyone of fraudulent activity of a former ebay user-- former because as of Feb 10, 2009 he was suspended indefinitely. The user id was wheretheyaint-dot-com and changed to user07030 on Feb 7, 2009. The id is registered to a Benjamin Milch who is also the registered owner of Wheretheyaint.com, LLC. He works with a guy named David Rubenstein and they are located in Hoboken, NJ.

They listed cards on ebay with stolen scans and removed watermarks that were placed on the images. They also blocked out the cert numbers so they could not be identified easily however the cards had other features which made them easily identifiable to the owner. The cards were never in their possession and the owner of the cards never authorized them to sell them.

Ebay has suspended them however they still maintains a site at www.wheretheyaint.com listing hundreds of thousands of dollars of cards. I have no idea if they own these cards, are in possession of them or are even authorized to sell them. If someone truly has inventory worth hundreds of thousands of dollars it would not reason they would perpetrate fraud and risk their reputation and business. I have reason to doubt the material listed on their site is actually available.

At this time I am cooperating with local law enforcement as well as with the FBI and cannot speak about the specifics of the case. While the investigation is going on, and at my earliest opportunity, I wanted to get the word out there to prevent anyone from being victimized by these people.


Greg


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Post by Square_Frame_Ramly on Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:36 pm

Great info...



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Re: Ben Milch David Rubenstein Wheretheyaint.com WARNING

Post by sabrjay on Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:38 pm

Thanks for the note. We all appreciate it.

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Re: Ben Milch David Rubenstein Wheretheyaint.com WARNING

Post by wheretheyaint on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:30 pm

To follow-up on the statements made about myself and
WhereTheyAint.com, I wanted to let the community know that eBay has
reinstated our account as they found no wrongdoing of any kind. This
decision took all of one 30 minute conversation. Below is the email
from eBay:

Dear Ben,

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your concerns about your
account suspension.

I have reviewed the details of your suspension again and I am pleased
to tell you that we have decided to reinstate your account.

You can begin buying and selling again immediately.

Thank you for your patience in this matter.

It was my pleasure to assist you and thank you for choosing eBay!

Sincerely,

Gillespie
eBay Customer Support



I will say, however, that eBay was not at ALL happy to find out that
Greg a) bought 2 eBay auctions he had no intention of paying for b)
used eBay’s service to learn my phone number and make threatening
phone calls to me and c) spread negative statements, that he knew to

be untrue, about my company. eBay informed me that it is now
investigating Greg for eBay violations and abuse.


WhereTheyAint.com has been an eBay member in good standing for 10
years and has PERFECT 100% positive feedback. No "empty boxes" are
shipped here. Customers are treated with respect and fairness, and
always receive the card or memorabilia item that they pay for. We
always offer secure payment methods such as Paypal and Escrow.com to
keep our customers' mind at ease. Because of our contributions to the
hobby and the industry, the National Baseball Hall of Fame recognized
us as Lifetime Members.


We welcome anyone who reads this to visit our site at www.WhereTheyAint.com.


As a post-script, this is an email we recently received from one of
our newer customers:


Ben,
I got my 54 Bowman Williams yesterday and wanted to tell you that I
was really pleased. That is a really nice card and I'm proud to have
it in my set. I've been actively collecting for 30 years. This is only
the 4th time I've spent $3,000 on one card. The Williams made me the
happiest. The Cobb Red Turkey made me the most money.
Thanks

Glenn L.
Atlanta, GA

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Re: Ben Milch David Rubenstein Wheretheyaint.com WARNING

Post by bowlingshoeguy on Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:13 pm

Ben,

Thanks for the response, it is always good to hear the other side of the story. My concern is that you have not addressed any of Greg claims. It is great that you have strong feedback and gave an example but I recently had a very bad situation with a solid ebayer and he would not admit to his wrong doing and I called him out. He got alot of support but we all can have bad dealings but owning up to them makes a world of difference. I am not saying you are in the wrong but the information you gave does not address Greg's claims. If you are a powerseller on ebay would would guess it would be alot easier to get reinstated, since ebay has a history of protecting their powersellers (does broadway Rick come to mind?).

I am not saying you are right or wrong but in my opinion you have not addresses Greg's claims.

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Post by bowlingshoeguy on Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:40 am

I see where wherethey ain't has been checking in but no response. That does not look any better for you by not responding, Ben. It is obvious that you are interested in the whole issue but your no response is bad.

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